From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: etags name collision. Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 17:07:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83lewb67ef.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20220411124736.3qijvtearh6wlen7.ref@Ergus> <20220411124736.3qijvtearh6wlen7@Ergus> <83pmln69n0.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21051"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 11 16:18:56 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ndusa-0005MK-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 16:18:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57222 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ndusZ-0001Aj-Fn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58078) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nduon-0002Is-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:15:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38746) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nduh4-0007ca-RL; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:07:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=aoU1RNI/Z3jYSQvZBhUrk7/ozfwLg8eqeKD1FPfkX9o=; b=qscEcruvmAJ/ WSl+pF9yPlCaVdmlB+b6dI6VFK8bY78OKHZVqGX1nlF+15aQXYxjXvSiBncdDdcnR5h1OQFcTuwnd joh+GAVLk3uMk5zKvpME3FxOKtnd5MUX+fVHacbSCC8dk9dppFzCq3040IgtiFdLCUDIqTRPnFEP4 YvFrMcofphI5Gic4NENF1gCY3ADAxuZO+hfc3O3pZh3N8DDx9zQPdC3w7ylamRPvLlmxkMwF0JFSh pb18hWTZVg3wLVVtGlHTFskcEjPg0ke+T5YtnTloZDpM2OIfagNDfnZAsC0fwKIkpQjx5EgVzOR4V /yN2tpcK/0QNDMA6j+uzBw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4032 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nduh4-0007yX-Aj; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:07:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 11 Apr 2022 16:38:38 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288207 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 16:38:38 +0300 > From: Dmitry Gutov > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On 11.04.2022 16:18, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> 2) Why do we create an executable with a name that is used by another > >> very wheel known program. > > It's the other way around: ctags was a very old Unix program, and > > Emacs developed a GNU version of that program. Universal ctags came > > much later. So you should ask them why did they decide to use a name > > that was already taken. > > > > Even the very old version of ctags that's distributed by most of > GNU/Linux distributions these days (Ctags 5.9~svn20110310) supports more > languages than etags. Like ~50% more languages. > > So it shouldn't come as a surprise that the our version of ctags was > never accepted as a true continuation or replacement. > > It's not like we're doing a particularly active development of it either. That's okay: people are free to use the other variants of ctags. It's the same situation as with movemail.