From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lib.ncurses.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs difficulties in linux console with ncurses-6.3 caused by kcbt=\E^I. Date: Sat, 07 May 2022 18:03:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83levdxu3y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20220506000102.GA10144@prl-debianold-64.jexium-island.net> <83v8uizd6r.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1zdy61z.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3309"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dickey@his.com, bug-ncurses@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-ncurses-bounces+gnu-bug-ncurses=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 07 17:04:40 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnu-bug-ncurses@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nnLz5-0000ks-U0 for gnu-bug-ncurses@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 May 2022 17:04:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40094 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nnLz4-00049Z-IR for gnu-bug-ncurses@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 May 2022 11:04:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nnLyR-00048z-CK; Sat, 07 May 2022 11:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40160) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nnLyN-0002MM-0E; Sat, 07 May 2022 11:03:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=hG3YvhiQn5I+TLeJ8nOuyozwglUS3i0wXeyKBQKT35w=; b=f/hdTAvmlvef kqwl/b0r3fa/TQmgqnT6FeKanbry/CGFSoMSAsMWbNLsaYyJ1e5HeLnbGR2iTsqSY12rcoclO4rTr BUFLmXIYPt0TZEpkGPGXWcDNfPxlO3HYj7VzVuIz8j31bhl6lw2EcXfAU2CuK+JYMyS551M7mqTAP UKiFh6D2iBUMAoU2KzraRqVpuNRJwy5cL7HXbQEXbSzZOK0OvxBFZurO8JDO2qWh/zCPwECnePur8 d+XSfITAbZP8YJ1gasGQWOU6oHctobEKsaC9220Lyn3iwZyHMPVD1PHAar4x9x0QYqr9N42kRHfc9 DffXUg2ui1OjEZypY0WiqA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2224 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nnLyL-0000Tr-QL; Sat, 07 May 2022 11:03:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sat, 7 May 2022 14:35:06 +0000) X-BeenThere: bug-ncurses@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for ncurses, the GNU implementation of curses" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-ncurses-bounces+gnu-bug-ncurses=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Bug-ncurses" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.lib.ncurses.bugs:8549 gmane.emacs.devel:289401 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 7 May 2022 14:35:06 +0000 > Cc: dickey@his.com, bug-ncurses@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > > Maybe we can write an entry in PROBLEMS and leave it to the user to fix > > > in her .emacs. Or maybe we can put code in lisp/term/linux.el > > > ourselves. > > > I'm okay with both alternatives, since I have no opinion on what is > > more important to users of Emacs on the Linux console. > > Having thought about it, I think putting > > (define-key input-decode-map "\e\t" nil) > > into lisp/term/linux.el would be the best thing. It will restore Emacs > on the Linux console to what it was before the recent ncurses release. Fine with me. > > > I don't know how typical I am of Linux console users, but I have my > > > keymap set up to send a different code for - namely > > > "\033[4}\011". > > > Perhaps that PROBLEMS entry could suggest that as well, so that users > > could have the cake and eat it, too. > > Here's a first stab at the PROBLEMS entry, under * Runtime problems on > character terminals>: Also fine, thanks. But please capitalize "TAB" and "ESC" in the text, to make them consistent with our notation elsewhere.