From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finalizing 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 19:07:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83lelk3q9s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837cx8cey0.fsf@gnu.org> <83357vauh5.fsf@gnu.org> <837cx6a8me.fsf@gnu.org> <83357ua6ja.fsf@gnu.org> <83zga28ra8.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0vd97s0.fsf@gnu.org> <83lell73yv.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0145guk.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21593"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org, larsi@gnus.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 30 18:08:06 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pMXdW-0005Ou-7I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:08:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMXd6-0001em-4r; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 12:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMXcl-0001da-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 12:07:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMXcl-0001ex-0y; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 12:07:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3Y1EOXwdUq/dtrR21Oo+Z+Xi0oV4xDH6X7XJYXY8Vgk=; b=FjAxfnC51u6l 8DCxTqOjIhwHv6RCir3Hsa7rllHtsKdijbHizCuL0WnJUb7jI0eAyztaG8X5w4jmi0wagDfuj2Fxc I4J/rF4DMcIr/kC4xHdp2MgRHFsk7Hi39RT/NSviaWB6l8Od0szQ9M6BIA/YOXYqX+x5D9/+1MlKU pZcVjxlnWr94VxDrh2IsdURmjSL0fgg8BbBbofjgGY74t0ow/fNsgrV7q/1BZf/3VQcip8pkbYsdh RKeWCS3wAESrcjVsB1IHZKSgcatKXJDM7GleaMr0qaatmLl+7zZqlRksvD2HUSAAaT2CROeDeoeuM ujNnfpSCt9bmRcLPq6stIg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMXcj-0000DN-T1; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 12:07:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 30 Jan 2023 09:57:18 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302798 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org, larsi@gnus.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 09:57:18 -0500 > > > Are you alluding to some uses we've heard about, or is this just a > > theoretical possibility? AFAIU, for this to be a real issue, we'd > > need a use where the user (a) disables native-compilation for some > > reason, but (b) still wants advices of natively-compiled code to > > work. Why would someone do something like that? > > (a) definitely happens. > (b) is completely outside the control of the user, it's just a matter of > the user using a package which relies on such an advice. I'd be very > surprised if this never happens. I asked why would advice be needed while compiling/loading files with natively-compilation disabled?