From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: treesit indentation "blinking" Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 17:52:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83leje47h5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h6ucik61.fsf@dancol.org> <0F406D08-56D4-4B21-B94D-A47681606911@gmail.com> <1870bcadd28.2829.cc5b3318d7e9908e2c46732289705cb0@dancol.org> <1870cce6690.2829.cc5b3318d7e9908e2c46732289705cb0@dancol.org> <35A837A9-59B4-4F1F-A5FA-8483C8024D76@gmail.com> <187104f6b48.2829.cc5b3318d7e9908e2c46732289705cb0@dancol.org> <21d018e5-a730-12e3-f97c-fffa4f646ccf@yandex.ru> <83v8ioc2ou.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfdsx0r2.fsf@gmail.com> <87lejgsf0m.fsf@gmail.com> <83pm8s70o3.fsf@gnu.org> <83mt3u65vw.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1newqus.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkka5z7w.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt3uwlc0.fsf@gmail.com> <83wn2y49v9.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkkawb8a.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14263"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, dancol@dancol.org, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, theo@thornhill.no, geza.herman@gmail.com To: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 30 16:53:02 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1phte9-0003PC-1n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 16:53:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1phtdT-0002Z5-Nf; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:52:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1phtdP-0002Yn-8H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:52:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1phtdN-0007ht-3i; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:52:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=d2kVLGbbs6WnbwDsJW8ZePpDiudIJNPnCiljJ4L+zQY=; b=k84k0ENyfYlSbBLLtzcQ NXGecR37YAU+nY/SSwfjTDxlxTNbiUKOID/EmVqxJ42v1gGXsKYQuvNqkdu0oDjzIrpwO2Dhaq4G5 BJVX7tP5K8Ljh2j/5J8p5+60S39b2ACEKu7odB44Ze/6zPL3ApJ8bD0bvvtRutTmSjTXRRmO6khKo j1lh8u7+SKRM81a5CqBL/bLHTE349won6ReiV7GkzO+YPcaVU06WBLoHBsmQ1hMB9mulik9tRiUWX dLA2uyZLn+Qhyf7nN46NZY+kH8n3nAJokIvkbT5FAM+RFLl3viR7nnqbXn57cT8kkG5Azu9nZvpYJ xV7DT6TlS9tosw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1phtdM-0003VD-K3; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:52:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bkkawb8a.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28g?= =?utf-8?B?VMOhdm9yYQ==?= on Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:43:49 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304869 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, dancol@dancol.org, casouri@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, theo@thornhill.no, geza.herman@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:43:49 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > This is a community project; without active collaboration of all the > > contributors it wouldn't be such a success. It should go without > > saying that when someone proposes a change and the discussion then > > concludes the change needs small adaptations, the person who proposed > > the change will then go ahead and install those small adaptations. > > Without such minimal collaboration, we as a project will get nowhere. > > But "the discussion" _didn't_ conclude that. You concluded that. I'm > not interesting in designing a defcustom, figuring out if it should be a > boolean or a string, what the default should be, the docstring, the > NEWS, etc for something which I think is a bug. I asked you to become interested, but only in the defcustom. I never said anything about NEWS etc. It's a simple request that should have taken just a few moments of your time. I was astonished by your flat refusal. And if that doesn't drive the point home, then I have nothing else to say in this matter. > I've never insisted other people to modify their work in ways they > aren't confident in. Sorry, but part of _my_ job here is to "insist". > They would probably politely refuse it and maybe I > would be slightly disappointed, but I could always do those changes > myself if they are indeed easy. "Unfriendly" would be a really bizarre > judgement to bestow on someone who volunteered time and code to my > project and happened not to agree on a detail. Most, if not all people whom I ask to make such small amendments (and also similar other ones, like reword the doc strings, rename variables, make some behavior optional, etc.) just do it. I'm asked to do similar things in other projects, where I'm just one of many contributors. Why you think it's unreasonable is beyond me.