From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496)
Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 08:29:22 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lei3jqh9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zg6jab1f.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 05 May 2023 08:15:24 +0800)
> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 08:15:24 +0800
>
> Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:
>
> > What's wrong with saying "iconified or minimized"?
>
> Because ``minimization'' is a form of iconification.
>
> > IIRC a few years ago there was on this list some acknowledgment of the
> > problems posed by using obsolete terminology in Emacs and some actions
> > were discussed to converge to modern wording up to some extent.
>
> ``minimize'' is not modern terminology. It is simply terminology used
> by proprietary window systems.
It is nowadays used by some GNU/Linux desktops (which basically
copycat everything that Windows introduces, as if there are no other
UI ideas under the sun). So, like it or not, this terminology is in
the wild for quite some time, and we cannot ignore that. Refraining
from mentioning these terms will not help cleansing the terminology,
but it will make it harder for users to read our documentation.
So we decided to use both terms, and explain that they are the same.
It is therefore futile to keep arguing about this, so let's please
not.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-05 5:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-03 18:40 icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496) Tobias Bading
2023-05-03 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-03 19:10 ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-04 0:12 ` Po Lu
2023-05-04 4:03 ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-04 4:38 ` Po Lu
2023-05-04 4:46 ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-04 4:59 ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-04 14:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-05-04 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 16:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-05-04 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 0:15 ` Po Lu
2023-05-05 1:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-05-05 4:44 ` tomas
2023-05-05 5:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 7:28 ` tomas
2023-05-05 10:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 5:24 ` Po Lu
2023-05-05 5:29 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-05-05 10:40 ` Tobias Bading
2023-05-05 11:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 11:00 ` Po Lu
2023-05-05 11:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 12:29 ` Po Lu
2023-05-05 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05 23:52 ` Po Lu
2023-05-06 6:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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