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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: grischka <grishka@gmx.de>
Cc: handa@m17n.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Case mapping of sharp s
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:58:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k4xkp84j.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B0759BA.2010303@gmx.de>

> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:08:42 +0100
> From: grischka <grishka@gmx.de>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org
> 
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> Also how can it happen that a C function varies between 4 and 90
> >> seconds for the same action.
> > 
> > I have no explanation for that.
> 
> Turned out that the time of backwards simple_search depends mostly
> on the number of buffer markers in the buffer.
> 
> That's because of CHAR_TO_BYTE in the inner loop and then because
> that one doesn't mind checking hundreds of markers for each single
> char in the file.

CHAR_TO_BYTE could be expensive, yes.  But how else can you convert an
arbitrary character position to the corresponding byte position?  When
you scan forward, you know the byte length of a multi-byte UTF-8
sequence by the first byte, but what do you do when you scan backwards?

The markers CHAR_TO_BYTE considers are a kind of cache, and are
supposed to speed things up.  I don't know what measurements were done
at the time this caching was introduced, nor whether those
measurements were repeated when Emacs switched from Mule encoding to
the current extended UTF-8 encoding of characters.  Maybe nowadays
this caching no longer helps.  Maybe UTF-8 allows a simpler conversion
than just counting bytes since the beginning of the buffer.  Or maybe
this particular use-case does not benefit from the cache, and we
should have a no-cache method for doing the same.

IOW, more research is needed.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-21  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-19 19:48 Case mapping of sharp s grischka
2009-11-19 21:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 22:43   ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20  2:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  8:03       ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20 14:14         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  3:41     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20  4:20       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  7:13         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  0:02           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-21 12:39             ` David Kastrup
2009-11-21 17:40               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 19:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  2:58                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22  4:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  8:27                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23  1:30                 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-21 22:52               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-20  8:10     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-20 11:46       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20 14:43         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21  4:33           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-19 23:25   ` grischka
2009-11-20  2:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  3:08       ` grischka
2009-11-21  8:58         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-11-21  9:33           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 11:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 15:33           ` grischka
2009-11-21 10:41         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21 11:58           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 17:01             ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-22 12:11               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-22 20:15                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24 12:26             ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-24 19:23               ` grischka
2009-11-25  2:13                 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-26 13:07                   ` grischka
2009-11-29 22:03                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30  1:22                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-30  1:28                     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30  1:36                       ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30  7:01                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-30 12:01                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 13:09                         ` martin rudalics
2009-11-30 21:57                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 22:34                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-12-01  0:02                           ` Juri Linkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-15 14:29 Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-16 12:06 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-16 16:38   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-17  7:36     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 21:23       ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-16 19:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-17  7:43     ` martin rudalics
2009-11-17  7:49     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 18:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18  1:00         ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18  4:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18  5:33             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-18  6:26             ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18 14:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 19:05                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-19  1:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 17:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-19  1:57                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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