From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:25:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83k4p1tb3x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <10954D02-E217-49F3-8824-757DA34074AB@gmail.com> <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> <83pqyva8ms.fsf@gnu.org> <87630n6odf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <874og670l0.fsf@gmx.de> <87k4p257ho.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87fwzqyn4j.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878w5igcto.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C3A069D.2000804@harpegolden.net> <87d3utws68.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278919757 24899 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2010 07:29:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: david@harpegolden.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, sebastian_rose@gmx.de, levelhalom@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 12 09:29:10 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OYDRu-0006Yt-72 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:29:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50369 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OYDRt-0000pq-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56575 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OYDRj-0000mj-9u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OYDRg-0006b0-4c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:42468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OYDRf-0006at-US; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L5F00D00OMJ1G00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:27:56 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.120.144]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L5F009YVOQI2LA0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:27:55 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87d3utws68.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127084 Archived-At: > From: Chong Yidong > Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:49:03 -0400 > Cc: Juri Linkov , Sebastian Rose , > emacs-devel@gnu.org, Tom , > Miles Bader > > To summarize: > > C-w and M-w should copy to the clipboard and set the primary > in addition to updating the kill-ring. > > shift-selection and mouse-dragging should set/update the primary, > leaving the clipboard and the kill-ring alone. > > mouse-2 should yank the primary. What about the region highlighted by typing C-SPC twice and then moving cursor -- will it go to the primary as well? > The main downside, IIRC, is that some users may not want C-w in Emacs to > clobber the clipboard. I can understand how this may be a concern, > since the Emacs kill-ring is much more flexible than the clipboard. But > this seems to be something for advanced users to worry about; for the > default, we ought to stick close to X11 "standards"). Perhaps make a simple minor mode for those users who don't want C-w etc. to clobber the clipboard.