From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Blink cursor changes, possible W32 breakage. Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 05:44:56 +0300 Message-ID: <83k3kky6l3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83oba22ymd.fsf@gnu.org> <6B4F86F0-164D-4CBE-8CD2-9BC9326451C4@swipnet.se> <8361w93k8e.fsf@gnu.org> <871u6x4we0.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <58D8CF7D-C157-4D48-93B4-2EFFAA4AAF61@swipnet.se> <8338rd2q1h.fsf@gnu.org> <534E99D7-CC13-4C8D-A80B-EC00995F741A@swipnet.se> <83txjt15hw.fsf@gnu.org> <83li550z3l.fsf@gnu.org> <87ip072t8d.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83vc46zwsy.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjthy438.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374374688 24053 80.91.229.3 (21 Jul 2013 02:44:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 02:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 21 04:44:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V0jdg-0007DV-7R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 04:44:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37882 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V0jdf-0007ta-Te for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:44:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V0jdc-0007tV-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:44:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V0jdb-0003pp-Lo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:44:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:41759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V0jdb-0003pa-ED; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:44:43 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MQ900600LZV3K00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 05:44:42 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MQ9006XNMAH3I10@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 05:44:42 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162044 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:40:42 -0400 > > >> >> AFAIK, and I expect that fairly few users use the features that > >> >> require timers (jit-lock-stealth and jit-lock-defer). > >> > I expect most of them do use timer-dependent features all the time. > >> Why? > > You didn't give any reasons for your assertions, either. > > No, indeed, but they're not activated unless the user asks for > it explicitly. I don't see how this is relevant. Are we going to tell users not to enable features if they want Emacs to be friendly to the batteries? That's not going to happen. > Also jit-lock-stealth used to be enabled by default but was disabled > because too many people found it problematic, so only those people > who don't care about high/excessive background CPU usage will have > it enabled. JIT Stealth has a variable to limit the system load it imposes; mine is set to 20%.