From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:00:16 +0200 Message-ID: <83k3253m0f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <83r3we2jb9.fsf@gnu.org> <20141205175504.GC3120@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417809625 15091 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 20:00:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 21:00:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwz32-0006oB-5S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 21:00:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52290 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwz31-0006Kn-ME for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:00:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54367) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwz2t-0006I4-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:00:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwz2n-0002ld-QO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:00:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:58433) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xwz2n-0002ks-II for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:00:01 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NG400G00JT77700@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 21:59:59 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NG400G4YKVY5I60@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 21:59:59 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20141205175504.GC3120@thyrsus.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179001 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 12:55:04 -0500 > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii : > > Until more people start contributing to the docs, it makes very little > > sense to me to change the tools, and by that cut the branch on which > > we sit, documentation-wise. > > You have this exactly backwards. Texinfo/info are a barrier that impedes > more recruitment of hands to work on documentation. This is one of the > reasons they must die. I think you are wrong. Texinfo is almost plain text, so writing documentation in it is not hard, certainly not a barrier. OTOH, the lack of motivation among code developers to write documentation, which leads to lack of know-how about writing good documentation, is a well known fact.