From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master d8da850: Document cairo-related fallout to font-backend settings Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:32:23 +0200 Message-ID: <83k15kx1tk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20200120162048.23970.80216@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200120162050.08A5421148@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="9899"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 21 16:34:06 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1itvXZ-0002Lq-V7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:34:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56786 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1itvXY-00045K-Ek for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:34:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55429) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1itvVn-0002JI-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:32:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47255) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1itvVn-0005I3-CR; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:32:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1549 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1itvVm-0007pf-Dr; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:32:14 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 21 Jan 2020 08:44:39 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:244459 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 08:44:39 +0100 > Cc: Emacs developers > > I see two options: > > 1. give the Qftcrhb symbol the same name as Qftcr, which might do the > right thing, but would make it harder to work out whether HarfBuzz is > actually being used. > > 2. just say "If youʼre going to be modern, be modern: Cairo requires > HarfBuzz" (note that this is the path that Pango is taking). I think 2 is the best alternative right now. I don't think we should make more radical decisions based on such incomplete experience, both with the Cairo build and with HarfBuzz.