From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
akrl@sdf.org
Subject: Re: Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:36:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83k1301qq4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <816186eb-baac-f5c7-04df-a3f30780d91d@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:31:43 +0300)
> Cc: casouri@gmail.com, akrl@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:31:43 +0300
>
> On 31.03.2020 16:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Why does it need the entire buffer up front? that sounds like a
> > potential performance killer. Fontifying a small part of a buffer
> > doesn't need its entire text.
>
> Because the end product of parsing the buffer is an AST, and the author
> decided to minimize the odds of problems that come with
> incomplete/broken ASTs.
But it definitely can work with parts of the buffer, and we don't need
it to have a complete AST for this particular job.
> The previous (first) discussion of TreeSitter has an URL to a
> presentation video. You can give it a watch.
Thanks, I've watched it back in January, when I wrote my message
calling for its integration.
> Regarding performance, their solution is to make first parsing as fast
> as possible, and updates to an existing AST faster still.
I'm talking about _our_ performance, not theirs.
> As for the difficulty of sending the whole buffer contents... maybe VS
> Code and Atom somehow make it easier? If so, someone should investigate
> why it has to be slower in Emacs.
It should be obvious that sending a buffer as a single string is less
efficient than letting tree-sitter access buffer text directly. We
just need an appropriate API for that (maybe there is one already, I
didn't take a look at their sources since January).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-31 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-29 18:46 Using incremental parsing in Emacs (via: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-29 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:29 ` Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs) Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 17:14 ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 17:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 18:43 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-30 18:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 19:02 ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 19:21 ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-31 3:56 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 13:36 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 15:37 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:18 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 0:57 ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-30 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 19:27 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 3:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 14:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-03-31 15:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 17:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 2:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 15:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 17:19 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-03-31 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:42 ` 조성빈
2020-03-31 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 18:48 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-31 19:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 19:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 2:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 3:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 4:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 13:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 21:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 22:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 16:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-02 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 14:40 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-03 16:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 13:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-01 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 15:44 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-01 16:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 21:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-02 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 18:03 ` 조성빈 via "Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-02 18:27 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-02 19:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 15:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 11:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 14:14 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 15:04 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 15:38 ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 12:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 12:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 12:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 16:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 17:22 ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 18:29 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 18:56 ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 20:36 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 17:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 18:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 23:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 14:25 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-06 19:55 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-04 17:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 17:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 16:13 ` Alan Third
2020-03-31 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 3:35 ` Using incremental parsing in Emacs (via: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 13:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 0:39 ` Stephen Leake
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-03-31 17:07 Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs) Tuấn Anh Nguyễn
2020-03-31 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 6:17 ` Tuấn Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-01 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:47 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-01 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 17:55 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-01 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 23:38 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02 0:25 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02 2:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 4:36 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 5:21 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 2:27 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-03 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 17:45 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-03 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 0:04 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-04 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 4:21 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 5:19 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-02 9:29 ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02 10:37 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-02 11:14 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 15:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 14:34 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
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