From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:40:37 +0300 Message-ID: <83k0x2j7fu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <87lfhina8a.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32159"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Philip K." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 11:41:35 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGJ5D-0008IK-17 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:41:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59092 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGJ5C-0002E9-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:41:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGJ4I-0000mo-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:40:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55019) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGJ4I-0003xb-Hw; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1220 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGJ4D-0006q8-Ml; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:40:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lfhina8a.fsf@posteo.net> (philipk@posteo.net) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254961 Archived-At: > From: "Philip K." > Gcc: nnfolder+archive:sent.2020-09 > Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 19:14:29 +0200 > > And regarding modernizing defaults, how about bundling a few "themes" > that enable/disable a few settings. It might be confusing at first, as > most people associate themes with visual customisations, but since Emacs > interprets the term more generally, adding themes such as "Modern" that > enables more bells and whistles (I'm not too enthusiastic about the > name, some might have chosen "Hipster" instead :^)), "Minimal" that > reduces UI, etc. might be a compromise between the fractions that want > to make Emacs appealing to newcomers and those that don't want to break > Emacs' way-of-operating by default. We already have a couple of such themes, so the issue of us accepting such themes doesn't exist. P.S. Please review your MUA settings, because they just caused Emacs to exclude the mailing list from the recipients, something that is unwanted.