From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive guide for new users Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 20:39:49 +0300 Message-ID: <83k0wydhcq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83d02re2uk.fsf@gnu.org> <838sdfdzxo.fsf@gnu.org> <20200912121603.bsp53vgfwj3y62in@Ergus> <831rj7dvhg.fsf@gnu.org> <20200912131802.fiowctrzc2yx4ozu@Ergus> <83y2lfcdq2.fsf@gnu.org> <20200912141758.47dqojov5ivabwyz@Ergus> <83r1r7cba9.fsf@gnu.org> <20200912162526.apns67ddol6imhiw@Ergus> <83mu1udiek.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19498"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ghe@sdf.org, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuan Fu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 19:40:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kH9Vx-0004yF-Ja for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:40:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51332 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH9Vw-0002jb-Mv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:40:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45214) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH9V8-0002HQ-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH9V8-0000MF-0C; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3148 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kH9V7-000601-AT; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:39:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Yuan Fu on Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:21:15 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255395 Archived-At: > From: Yuan Fu > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:21:15 -0400 > Cc: Gregory Heytings , Ergus , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Looking deeper into this, either posframe and ivy are already in > elpa. We only need to add ivy-posframe to elpa. There is also a > which-key-posframe and even a company-posframe. So we have the whole set > of featured you want. > > WDYT? Add all this to vanila :\? > > We were talking about what to offer to newcomers as options, remember? > > It would be nice to add the option to install and enable ivy and company in the guide, can we do this in > principle (i.e., promote a elpa package)? Not talking about whether we should, but whether we can. We should first decide whether we want to offer such features to new users, and only later see how to make that happen. > In the similar spirit, can we give the user the option to include Melba into package-archives? That question was already answered, see the Emacs FAQ. The intention to have the non-GNU ELPA is another answer to the same question.