From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 21:26:37 +0200 Message-ID: <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6193374b-a60d-ba82-91b5-afdede18e3bb@yandex.ru> <72871d3a-3b6a-d6fd-01cc-4248f817923c@yandex.ru> <801f93f3-8c1f-5f5f-6351-e1169bc309ae@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2841"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 06 20:27:59 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxETP-0000cx-Dc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 20:27:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37278 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxETO-000085-EY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxESK-0007gV-Am for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:26:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxESJ-0001oS-GT; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:26:51 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3352 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kxES6-0004bn-UH; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:26:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Wed, 6 Jan 2021 21:53:08 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262627 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 21:53:08 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > Richard Stallman , Dmitry Gutov > > "Distributable" is vague and does not say really what license it is, > but I do ensure you that Opera is proprietary software. > > And so on, and so on. > > By putting repology.el into GNU ELPA, GNU software like Emacs will > become a good reference to unethical software repositories promoting > among proprietary software. Showing information about a package and a link to download it is a far cry from "promoting" it. Suppose I want to download a potentially non-free package to study its code, or even just to understand with what kind of license it is distributed (since you say the site itself doesn't tell) -- is this "verboten" as well in Jean Louis's interpretation of what a Free Software follower should and shouldn't do? IOW, since when providing _information_ about something means we endorse it? Are we allowed to discuss "the bad guys", or should we pretend they don't exist, for the fear that if we do mention them, that could be interpreted as "promoting" them and their views? If you think for a while, you will realize that this is the kind of slippery slope that leads to the company of the bastards that accused Richard in justifying obnoxious and criminal behavior. "You are either with us or against us."