From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 10:09:43 +0200 Message-ID: <83k0py8f5k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <87tup3hwat.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <834kh39fvj.fsf@gnu.org> <271290d7aaec41df5fde@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6308"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 09:10:22 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc7K-0001YM-7u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:10:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33766 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc7J-0002D6-8d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:10:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc6b-0001mi-9w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:09:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc6a-0006XX-Ri; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:09:36 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1352 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc6a-0000zK-Ar; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:09:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <271290d7aaec41df5fde@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:22:36 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266863 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:22:36 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org, > Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com > > >>> I use C-o (usually followed by C-n) many times a day, instead of > >>> , in order to suppress re-indentation of the current line in > >>> cases where that re-indentation will be incorrect for my purposes**. > >> > >> Oh, I see -- it's useful as an alternative to `RET' exactly when > >> re-indentation does the wrong thing? > > > > Yes, but not only that -- it doesn't move point to the next line, unlike > > RET. > > Why should a control key must be reserved forever for that very specific > purpose, and for that very specific purpose only, in the default Emacs > bindings? Opening an empty line is a very useful editing primitive, not unlike going to the next line with RET. Trying to change that will always cause staunch resistance, especially when the purpose for which this is done is vague and not perceived as important enough by enough people.