From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 18:50:56 +0300 Message-ID: <83k05mfacf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ill8paw7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwrig5s.fsf@gnu.org> <83wn9ngvr6.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0zuhgfl.fsf@gnu.org> <834jwqh7uu.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17285"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 29 18:34:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1odwUX-000442-5k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 18:34:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57728 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odwUV-0007mM-Ix for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 12:34:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odvoW-0000QE-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:51:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35028) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odvoW-0003bQ-7C; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:51:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=SiYq+eNfd2xKOdbU8wM5JNHe39MfcZ3+BPjeE6nSKmE=; b=eXqIrPGLn3BL Qoinn4nnoFFKQOVcYyU68ZJnqeNkZKKTTJuNEGsGXmaAk12ek27HpGmnq/aEtDZViv1xWRVql5HCd aBKtP9qm77kKJ+fHKIyUjGL0Qg3tq5YFh6HIqDYhqubmV58XwX/yBoWrfB0RttEfolJwwi8eq8jqz tdNYiYF66M9IV8UyMVtUrD9f4turM+KA+hyBxxmnwO+8r8AeAknpBAszxb2af6uszOCtt4kPyE/xn qngExVriFs0iWqOxamZVO1fx7SklGhJfEB/W1wf1a6bCzVjYtAVBY1OZztLoRt0MKjsO5D2E4e6nA z+tRh0V5tVHnfmLtxb9Bug==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1690 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odvoV-0001f6-Ql; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:51:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Thu, 29 Sep 2022 14:32:07 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296468 Archived-At: > From: Andrea Corallo > Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 14:32:07 +0000 > > That said I think that given the very low cost of building trampolines, > and the deep impact that their absence would have in the Emacs > machinery, we should acctually discourage the user to do so unless some > very specific reason is present (I can't think of any ATM). The reason stated by Rob was that they want to prevent "writing to user's HOME directory". I don't think I understand the rationale well enough, and I asked some questions about it. I hope Rob will answer, and then we could continue discussing what is reasonable for that use case.