From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:57:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83k05iyrxw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83edvqafr7.fsf@gnu.org> <83h70m19yv.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu4mm7kt.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6yt3i.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsg69in3.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7105"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, yandros@gmail.com, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 20:58:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1of4Ad-0001iN-FK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 20:58:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53386 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of4Ac-0002A0-DH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:58:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of49U-0008Pg-N4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48162) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of49U-0001v3-4j; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:57:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=hod3Tp7DZmeOQgMMVCq4WDCNbJf9oc+fEqurWVqmvGQ=; b=ZmrwMghVxJUG /LhpjrP8Ri5nT9+Qn18Ys4U9PpGMvbyQ+4w8NwwPiVCyxj70FtYyVNuU42rlngGzpHRbynYKZrUgr wDXCQRXAeZ+je2Ot2b2yq3TJZxTGyc6183UOB+uYRiVM3s3Kx7H8Hl0M/8YeP9S3nWuyySXKF7A/z DUnRQ7g6YCCJfzHuaDkK/m06Kv7tBwvMfdBDsJTBvW63x9AmkxwhHsrDEFwGLdtZN/t7LRsoW9lfS UcncWOnYghuklcs/HQHt2E9fS1gD8FjcblTH7F+9at1CWZDTjTluoqkL++drIMu9cvQczlV+/wMYi Jeq80gYHR6TrcHZN6lF1uA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1812 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of49T-0002GU-Fe; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 14:57:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fsg69in3.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 02 Oct 2022 20:37:20 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296688 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Rob Browning , yandros@gmail.com, > tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 20:37:20 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > E.g., my eln-cache directory has no less than 20 subdirectories, each > > one for a slightly different Emacs version and configuration. > > You're an Emacs developer, so that's to be expected. As I wrote (and you elided), I don't expect to see 20 subdirectories on other systems, but I wouldn't be surprised to see 5 or 10. > But for normal users, the .eln files are neither more nor less specific > to an Emacs version than, say, the .pdmp file. If Debian distributes a > specific Emacs version, it will be accompanied with the matching .pdmp > file -- and the matching .eln files, if that is what Debian decides to > do. We are talking about optional packages, not about preloaded Lisp files. The preloaded ones indeed go together with the pdumper file, but the optional ones don't. > This is not complicated. Famous last words.