From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 11:43:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83jzw2qy0l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <83edmask4z.fsf@gnu.org> <874jn6fue3.fsf@yahoo.com> <83zg4yr1tf.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0qaee6b.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11090"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 17 10:44:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qARXa-0002Vm-VW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 10:44:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qARXJ-0006TD-Gt; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 04:43:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qARXH-0006RG-MQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 04:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qARXH-0002oC-C5; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 04:43:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=XV3XwtbWlb215HL8k+TI9fMT8t3paa2MFGhHZd5EE1k=; b=ksuUX/Jl57hR 7Y/41pJDIcIK/xN9TdSiDaqkhMGtOrkZhf71amAFGBzgEaFT8Bd6/tphSiMJZQW+Lg6Au+1t8o+L1 Lrtk2kh35wUvZwPYFDl6ckE4SjKxDLov3+s/T2Ezc2D+jnzbVfBh562+cK7vQsvNvJXG2IYwcinDx JRoZ3oC+WmfaycgMlKgwaxSWkuwmY9w9Ln12yA4zr248tUICrRIdLwspGI/zXAJpnujjMPsVctqnZ CBVPE2g9aKiLaVBfoaXhsjxn7EOWn3dojQkuneMuSKWWQO4WqW5q8VM4/GiayOgyt/GFn60gY3vUU Au0LDEX6cUAjSkvugznb+w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qARXG-0005IV-Sa; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 04:43:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r0qaee6b.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 17 Jun 2023 15:33:16 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306870 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 15:33:16 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Your work is appreciated, but I'm unconvinced that it can make the > > impact of this port easy enough to not break our backs. Rather than > > relying on beliefs, I'd like to rely on experience with other ports, > > and on general experience with Emacs development. > > I designed the Android port _with_ said experience in mind. Including > design mistakes in the Haiku and PGTK ports that I have since fixed. I was talking about long-term experience of developing and maintaining various ports in Emacs. You cannot possibly have such an experience. > > Granted, this is a judgment call, which is why I brought this up in > > the first place. > > So far, the only Emacs developers who have expressed an opinion here > have been you and I. So perhaps we should bring some other voices here: > who has any names in mind? Yes, please speak up.