From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Where to contribute manual translations ?
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2023 18:04:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83jzoy71pb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=3UkocaW-wDg6KXOeR9zLQmYBh9Vn+tc76NnyBum+FrQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 28 Dec 2023 07:32:08 -0800)
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2023 07:32:08 -0800
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > Stefan, do you think doc/LANG, where LANG is a language name, is okay
> > for keeping translations of manuals to language LANG?
>
> I'd probably prefer to keep them in a subdirectory like
>
> doc/translations/<...>
>
> My main concern with adding new files [with similar names] is ease of
> autocompleting, both inside the doc/ directory, and when using
> `project-find-file' together with flexible matching styles.
>
> For the latter case especially, I find that having duplicate file names
> under version control often causes conflicts. Thus, I'd rather we avoid
> that if possible.
>
> I'd suggest something like
>
> doc/translations/$SECTION/$LANG-$MANUAL.texi
>
> so that we end up with
>
> doc/translations/misc/fr-ses.texi
>
> .
>
> I also considered something like
>
> doc/translations/$LANG/$SECTION/$MANUAL
>
> so that in this case we end up with
>
> doc/translations/fr/misc/ses.texi
>
> but that has the same problem that we end up with duplicate file names.
> It's also perhaps somewhat overblown given that we only expect to have a
> very small number of translated manuals for the foreseeable future.[1]
>
> WDYT?
If we are going to call the source files of the translations of
manuals as MANUAL-LANG.texi, then we don't need a separate directory,
we could instead put them all in the same directories. That is, we
could have doc/misc/ses.texi and doc/mist/ses-fr.texi. This would be
simpler, I think?
> > Another question is what would be the file name of the corresponding
> > Info file, and in what directory should it be generated by makeinfo?
>
> I'm less concerned with autocompleting in this directory, and it's not
> under version control. So it should be easier to change the structure
> later, I think.
>
> Perhaps for now something like
>
> info/$LANG/$MANUAL
>
> is okay?
Why not info/$MANUAL-$LANG.info ?
And I think we should look at what other projects do, if we find such
projects.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-28 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-27 21:14 Where to contribute manual translations ? Vincent Belaïche
2023-12-28 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 11:41 ` Vincent Belaïche
2023-12-28 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 14:01 ` Po Lu
2023-12-28 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-29 0:42 ` Po Lu
2023-12-29 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 15:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-28 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-12-28 17:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-28 17:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 19:43 ` Vincent Belaïche
2023-12-29 2:05 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-29 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-29 9:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-29 10:18 ` Vincent Belaïche
2023-12-29 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-29 12:42 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-30 3:20 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-30 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-02 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-02 3:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-03 4:12 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-03 12:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-30 3:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-30 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 0:27 ` Vincent Belaïche
2024-01-01 7:57 ` SES manual French translation (Re: Where to contribute manual translations ?) Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-01 12:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 12:56 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-01 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 23:11 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-02 12:35 ` Translation of manuals (was: SES manual French translation) Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-02 13:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-02 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-02 13:51 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-02 13:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-03 4:38 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-03 13:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-03 13:30 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-03 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-03 23:14 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-04 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-04 6:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-04 7:59 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-04 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-04 9:10 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-04 10:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-04 12:53 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-06 5:40 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 8:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 11:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06 12:18 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 13:26 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 4:36 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-04 7:18 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-05 0:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05 1:17 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-08 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 6:13 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-08 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 6:13 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-09 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-09 3:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-10 4:56 ` free services (was: Re: Translation of manuals (was: SES manual French translation)) Emanuel Berg
2024-01-13 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-11 21:50 ` Translation of manuals (was: SES manual French translation) Vincent Belaïche
2024-01-05 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-04 11:34 ` Translation of the Org mode manual (was: Translation of manuals (was: SES manual French translation)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-04 12:19 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-02-07 3:12 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-07 23:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-09 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-05 4:23 ` Translation of manuals (was: SES manual French translation) Richard Stallman
2024-01-02 13:25 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-02 13:27 ` Translation of manuals Po Lu
2024-01-03 4:50 ` Translating Emacs manuals is of strategic importance Stefan Kangas
2024-01-03 13:28 ` Po Lu
2024-01-04 4:46 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-04 6:13 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-05 0:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05 8:20 ` Infrastructure proposal (Re: Translating Emacs manuals is of strategic importance) Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-05 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-05 14:07 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-05 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-04 6:36 ` Translating Emacs manuals is of strategic importance Po Lu
2024-01-05 0:34 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05 2:29 ` Po Lu
2024-01-07 6:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-07 7:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-05 2:36 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-05 7:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-05 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-05 15:20 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-05 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-05 16:10 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-05 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 4:40 ` @dircategory (Re: Translating Emacs manuals is of strategic importance) Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 8:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 9:37 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 11:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 12:25 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 13:49 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 14:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-06 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 19:41 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-06 20:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 20:31 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-07 5:38 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-07 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 19:33 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-06 12:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06 19:27 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-10 20:52 ` Patrice Dumas
2024-01-11 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 12:48 ` Daniel Cerqueira
2024-01-11 13:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 13:42 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-11 19:14 ` Daniel Cerqueira
2024-01-11 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 13:49 ` Patrice Dumas
2024-01-11 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 15:56 ` Patrice Dumas
2024-01-11 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 18:22 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-11 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 19:46 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-11 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 20:37 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-11 21:58 ` Vincent Belaïche
2024-01-12 8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 18:33 ` Info download service Gavin Smith
2024-01-12 14:42 ` Daniel Cerqueira
2024-01-12 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-13 20:54 ` Patrice Dumas
2024-01-15 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-15 10:35 ` Patrice Dumas
2024-01-18 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-19 12:21 ` Patrice Dumas
2024-01-06 11:57 ` @dircategory (Re: Translating Emacs manuals is of strategic importance) Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 6:44 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-06 20:02 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-06 20:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 19:18 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-22 8:48 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-22 21:40 ` Patrice Dumas
2024-01-06 19:03 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-06 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 20:16 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-06 20:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-06 21:17 ` Gavin Smith
2024-01-07 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 0:28 ` Translating Emacs manuals is of strategic importance Gregory Heytings
2024-01-12 8:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:08 ` Gregory Heytings
2024-01-12 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 17:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2024-02-17 14:49 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-07 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-01 23:06 ` SES manual French translation (Re: Where to contribute manual translations ?) Stefan Kangas
2024-01-01 23:14 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-02 0:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-02 1:13 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-02 3:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-02 3:46 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-02 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-03 4:12 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-01 15:40 ` Vincent Belaïche
2024-01-01 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 18:54 ` Vincent Belaïche
2024-01-01 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 23:34 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2024-01-04 11:24 ` Where to contribute manual translations ? Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 21:34 ` Vincent Belaïche
2024-01-01 15:18 ` Richard Stallman
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