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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Bernhard M. Wiedemann" <bernhardout@lsmod.de>,
	Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs reproducible builds part1 of 2 : eln
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:22:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83jzofj70t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d01d73e-7ce1-4b3a-a25c-03b518a7e584@lsmod.de> (bernhardout@lsmod.de)

> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:17:24 +0100
> From: "Bernhard M. Wiedemann" <bernhardout@lsmod.de>
> 
> I'm working on reproducible builds for openSUSE
> and in that process found that our emacs-29.1
> package varies across builds from 2 different issues
> 
> The diff is visible at
> https://rb.zq1.de/compare.factory-20231231/diffs/emacs-compare.out
> 
> Here is a simple reproducer that works in our build env:
> 
> cd ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/emacs-29.1/native-lisp &&
>   for i in $(seq 10) ; do
>    ../src/emacs -batch \
>    --eval "(batch-native-compile t)" ../lisp/term/x-win.el &&
>    md5sum 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln
>   done | sort | uniq -c
> 
> 
> That prints variations of
>        6 0c749bdbef8d9fa7b1afc2f042caf45b 
> 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln
>        2 3022ea8c675b69ac79005281fd824179 
> 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln
>        2 57bc581456c38395e9ac6409bbcb0d6e 
> 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln
> 
> 
> while the same with setarch -R ../src/emacs
> produces deterministic
>       10 0c749bdbef8d9fa7b1afc2f042caf45b 
> 29.1-70b784e9/x-win-3c49581f-6ddb7e08.eln
> 
> So somewhere in the batch-native-compile code is a place that adds 
> ASLR-related non-determinism into the .eln file. From the diff, it 
> probably is some ordering issue.
> 
> I'd appreciate pointers to where that non-determinism gets added and how 
> to patch it out.

Andrea, can you perhaps help Bernhard understand where the differences
come from?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-12  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-11 21:17 emacs reproducible builds part1 of 2 : eln Bernhard M. Wiedemann
2024-01-12  8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-01-12 16:19   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-01-12 16:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-13  9:52       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-10 16:35         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-10 17:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-10 18:31             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-10 18:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-10 20:37                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-11 10:24                   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-11 20:13                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-11 21:44                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-22  6:06                     ` Bernhard M. Wiedemann
2024-05-22 12:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-27 17:33                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-28 15:20                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-31  7:26                           ` Bernhard M. Wiedemann
2024-05-31  7:44                             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-31  8:22                               ` Bernhard M. Wiedemann
2024-05-31 10:45                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-31 10:33                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 16:14 ` Simon Tournier
2024-01-12 20:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-12  7:10 ` Björn Bidar
     [not found] ` <87il2ub1jy.fsf@>
2024-02-12  8:17   ` Andrea Corallo

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