From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:14:01 +0200 Message-ID: <83iosb58km.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52FCD2B4.5080006@yandex.ru> <52FD9F1D.50205@yandex.ru> <83mwhucg1h.fsf@gnu.org> <878ute589i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2iqc84m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqgxkcr9.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n41db0d.fsf@gnu.org> <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> <831tz5daes.fsf@gnu.org> <8738jlohd6.fsf@yandex.ru> <83txc1bl83.fsf@gnu.org> <5300189A.9090208@yandex.ru> <83wqgv9fbj.fsf@gnu.org> <20140216180712.236069f6@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83sirj9cyp.fsf@gnu.org> <20140217203145.71a849f7@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <837g8t8ouc.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwho68qu.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83k3cs7898.fsf@gnu.org> <87ha7vaw8l.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392830049 14999 80.91.229.3 (19 Feb 2014 17:14:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, forcer@forcix.cx To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 19 18:14:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WGAip-0006z7-8t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:14:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60872 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGAio-00018r-P1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:14:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57346) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGAia-0000sM-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:14:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGAiV-0003tQ-Nw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:52892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WGAiV-0003t1-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:13:51 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N19003006GFMH00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:13:50 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N19003XM6J1LK10@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:13:50 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87ha7vaw8l.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169766 Archived-At: > From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: , , > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:43:54 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > What red tape? Emacs is about the most red-tape-less project as you > >> > can find, as far as the procedure of admitting a patch is considered. > >> > >> > >> This is an interesting difference of opinion and is probably worth > >> exploring; it's worth knowing what the difficulties where. > > > > That's why I asked what kind of red tape was being alluded to here. > > My apologies I had taken it as a rhetorical question. It wasn't. "Red tape" means bureaucracy, as I'm sure you know, and I wondered where's that in Emacs. > Sending patches is quite slow and generally painful. This can be quite > an impediment to "drive-by" fixes. Consider (my sole) contribution to > biopython: See my other mail in this thread. In a nutshell, this is how things are done in every project I was ever involved with, so Emacs is not an exception here.