From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Docstrings and manuals Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 05:33:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83inzfaboa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6ok2vyzwf9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <08f70cda-44be-0657-e50a-2b2c80d2c21c@yandex.ru> <87oa9dzgl0.fsf@gmx.de> <87potshczh.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9f4ghzg.fsf@gmx.de> <8737qnc8ep.fsf@gmx.de> <87k2jwd3gr.fsf_-_@gmx.de> <8dfdfe5d-41fe-7c05-0054-0bd3e589390e@yandex.ru> <831t64b7l0.fsf@gnu.org> <3c95a1a7-a334-73e7-0644-71aa0d862b50@yandex.ru> <83twj09pc5.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460946814 8428 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2016 02:33:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 02:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 18 04:33:34 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1arz0H-0000DT-65 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 04:33:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56093 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arz0G-0000Ct-L9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 22:33:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44125) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arz0C-00009v-4Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 22:33:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arz08-0001x8-4C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 22:33:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arz08-0001x4-1U; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 22:33:24 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1405 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1arz06-0003hk-Uc; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 22:33:23 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 17 Apr 2016 23:22:59 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203027 Archived-At: > Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 23:22:59 +0300 > > Generic Functions, on the other hand, may be indicative of the problem > that I've brought up: the descriptions of `cl-defgeneric' and > `cl-defmethod' and much longer in the manual than their docstrings > (especially the latter one). I see no particular reason for them to be > different in this case. You are looking at the documentation of the specific symbols, while I invited you to look at the stuff that isn't. To my mind, that additional stuff is important for the presentation of the subject as a whole, and it has no place in the doc strings.