From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 17:54:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83inspwvvy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160916203414.25203.87032@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <86a8efqf9p.fsf@realize.ch> <8337k7hysd.fsf@gnu.org> <8660p3qd99.fsf@realize.ch> <831szrhwsr.fsf@gnu.org> <8760p12qzw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83vax0en1u.fsf@gnu.org> <87pon5ek3q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87twcgttjf.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86a8e7symk.fsf@realize.ch> <8737jzl4u9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8337jz8dg8.fsf@gnu.org> <83insv3tnl.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1j33qgg.fsf@gnu.org> <87wph96cto.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h98axk5z.fsf@gnu.org> <8760opkdz3.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476802505 460 195.159.176.226 (18 Oct 2016 14:55:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 14:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 18 16:55:00 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwVmn-00060D-CR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 16:54:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42049 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwVmp-0002Ti-Fq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:54:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50857) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwVmg-0002SP-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:54:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwVmd-0006ou-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:54:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwVmd-0006ok-4f; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:54:27 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1112 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bwVmc-0001vb-9e; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:54:26 -0400 In-reply-to: <8760opkdz3.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208425 Archived-At: > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: John Wiegley , andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 14:01:52 +0100 > > >> PL> I think it's decision time. I am happy to carry on a little further with > >> PL> the package.el based approach that I have outlined, fixing the one > >> PL> significant issue with it and then I will stop. If you don't want to go > >> PL> this way, that's fine. > > > > Sorry, I don't understand the kind of decision that is being > > requested. I understand that one alternative is that you "carry on a > > little further" with your approach, although I'm vague about the > > details of that, or what is your goal. > > Complete the code that I have started. Three goals: > > - Use package.el to build (compile, generate autoloads) packages in > during the build > - Use package.el to initialize and load these during startup > - Support testing of these packages during build. > > With a secondary aim of: > > - Enable a built emacs to build and test all packages in ELPA whether > they are core/tarball or not. Can this be done while keeping the current structure under lisp/ intact and putting packages from ELPA under lisp/ ? If yes, I think this is what we all want.