From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Change to NS drawing routines Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 22:10:41 +0300 Message-ID: <83in4ejd5a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180811140620.GA1519@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <20180813184659.GA2258@breton.holly.idiocy.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1534187325 27138 195.159.176.226 (13 Aug 2018 19:08:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: charles@aurox.ch, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Third Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 13 21:08:41 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fpICk-0006sr-ML for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 21:08:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41119 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fpIEp-0007eX-NW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:10:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51695) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fpIEg-0007dV-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:10:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fpIEc-0005RD-B6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:10:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58061) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fpIEc-0005R9-6z; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:10:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4792 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fpIEb-0005dR-LS; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:10:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <20180813184659.GA2258@breton.holly.idiocy.org> (message from Alan Third on Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:46:59 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228499 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:46:59 +0100 > From: Alan Third > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Going through the previous email discussions, linked in the thread > above, Eli made it clear that he sees using the expose functions to > draw, when it’s not an expose event, as being incorrect. > > i.e. this: > > > > Again, invalidating an area to let the "expose" handler draw > > > afterwards is a very standard, primary, canonical, and sometimes > > > only way of drawing nowadays. (If you call it is an abuse or > > > trick, you'll be laughed.) > > > > You can laugh, if you want, but I still think it's abuse, and won't > > be convinced by being laughed at. > > from http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-04/msg00435.html > > I can understand the argument to an extent, but I don’t have another > solution. We could discuss this again, perhaps the details have changed, or we might be able o find some compromise everybody can live with. For starters, what changes, if any, would you need to make in the glyph matrices, and why?