From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 12:30:21 +0200 Message-ID: <83imws8hmq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o97aq6gz.fsf@jidanni.org> <87tvgoud56.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83o96wk2mi.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1hjfvjd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871s3p0zdz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83h8ckezyt.fsf@gnu.org> <83o96qegv1.fsf@gnu.org> <32b1ab1b-bef4-629a-8830-b1dcc6915087@cs.ucla.edu> <83a7iae9va.fsf@gnu.org> <05ed2dec-2a84-f7dc-1af5-c9d923992785@cs.ucla.edu> <87bm2p56gu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837edbdg33.fsf@gnu.org> <65e3fe78-3264-12ff-1edf-a05bfd86a9a9@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="217470"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 09 11:30:53 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h2ZFk-000uSd-V8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 11:30:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57019 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2ZFj-0007wB-TL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 05:30:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42124) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2ZFc-0007tx-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 05:30:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56426) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h2ZFb-0002PZ-Cz; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 05:30:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3970 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h2ZFT-0008DZ-6T; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 05:30:35 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Eggert on Fri, 8 Mar 2019 23:54:28 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233956 Archived-At: > Cc: Elias Mårtenson , eliz@gnu.org, > juri@linkov.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 23:54:28 -0800 > > So the form depends on N, not on whether the translation of the word > "items" is masculine or feminine or whatever. It actually depends on both. > GNU gettext deals with this at the translation level, so that ordinary programs > can just use a function like ngettext to translate an English-language format > with two plural forms. Emacs Lisp should do something similar: we shouldn't try > to reinvent this wheel. Right.