From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Oddities with dynamic modules Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 22:17:34 +0200 Message-ID: <83imwct21t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y3b4wdw9.fsf@gnu.org> <83tvhal45r.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="59995"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: yurivkhan@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 21 21:37:09 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h74R3-000FU4-02 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 21:37:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46509 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h74R1-0000Nk-U6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 16:37:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h74NG-0006Rn-EW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 16:33:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49319) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h7487-0002el-9a; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 16:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1762 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h7486-0002N5-5P; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 16:17:34 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Philipp Stephani on Thu, 21 Mar 2019 21:04:07 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:234484 Archived-At: > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 21:04:07 +0100 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers > > > > I thought simplicity and convenience of use tramps simplicity of the > > > implementation, so it is strange to read arguments to the contrary. > > > IME, inconvenient interfaces are the main reason for them being > > > unstable, but that's me. > > > > A good middle ground is a minimalistic (but sufficient) API at the > > host side, plus idiomatic convenience wrapper libraries for each > > client language. (The latter need not be maintained by the host API > > maintainer.) > > Yes, that's exactly what Daniel suggested in his initial design. It's > also what largely seems to be happening: people have written idiomatic > wrappers for Rust, Go, and probably other languages. Where's the wrapper for C? > Thus I'd say this is working as inteded. I still find it strange (and can already hardly remember what I wrote several months ago, so perhaps try to respond sooner next time?).