From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 13:55:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83imv2z74u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1552789070.5272.1@yandex.ru> <1552791707.5272.2@yandex.ru> <1552793646.5272.3@yandex.ru> <1552821396.21432.0@yandex.ru> <83imwhwf4x.fsf@gnu.org> <837ecvux2q.fsf@gnu.org> <9c7cf558-a2d3-951e-d6e1-31b3ad5900cf@yandex.ru> <1553064994.13109.0@yandex.ru> <831s32t3fn.fsf@gnu.org> <93f38b88-059b-b243-49bf-df61f424fb3f@yandex.ru> <83o94zap79.fsf@gnu.org> <5161ae04-391e-49d8-e942-127c04062c27@yandex.ru> <83sgu6zbfe.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="8751"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, hi-angel@yandex.ru To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 25 12:58:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hJc4t-0002A8-TH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 12:58:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55285 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJc4s-0008KQ-UH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 06:58:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56003) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJc2i-0006mG-JB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 06:55:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48596) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJc2g-0001LC-EK; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 06:55:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3122 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hJc2f-0005nE-Gj; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 06:55:50 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 25 Apr 2019 13:35:01 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235915 Archived-At: > Cc: hi-angel@yandex.ru, theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 13:35:01 +0300 > > > When close to 80% of bugs and patches posted to the issue tracker will > > wait less than a week before they get responded in some meaningful way > > (excluding a mere acknowledge of seeing the report), and not > > necessarily by yours truly. Sounds good? > > You mean only after that we can consider changing workflows? That's the criterion I propose, yes. > A lot of big, popular projects (and especially those) have huge > numbers of untriaged bugs because it's simply a function of a > project's popularity. I see no reason not to triage the bugs quickly, even if a large portion of the bugs gets triaged into the "unassigned" category. Triage is not a complex process. > I honestly do not know what improvement is possible with our current > resources. The only way I know of improving the situation is to try, and > try, to attract new contributors. And that can happen if we use newer > tools which increase visibility into our development process, and makes > it more approachable for a new contributor. The situation actually improves quite steadily. Just slowly. > If you look back at the list I wrote, only the step of Migration off > Debbugs (the last one) should be considered distant. So you propose that we use debbugs and Gitlab concurrently? How's that supposed to work?