From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A project-files implementation for Git projects Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 18:59:08 +0300 Message-ID: <83impnrmb7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8736h9rdc4.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7bbjdwe.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7ba8uvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnk2zvvy.fsf@gnu.org> <838sqpx9eq.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2yow9dy.fsf@gnu.org> <838sqnw2na.fsf@gnu.org> <3007947f-f4eb-e3e8-8c14-1b372323aa1c@yandex.ru> <831rwfvzd6.fsf@gnu.org> <64bcedbf-d891-dcad-ac65-5719920f58e2@yandex.ru> <83k1a4tct2.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv97run8.fsf@gnu.org> <5ba04bf6-ed74-a18e-9074-5aa481ec3669@yandex.ru> <2c78a9ac-c535-bc18-8da8-30e121484929@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="25603"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 20 18:08:53 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iBLSm-0006Qq-If for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 18:08:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32990 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iBLSj-0008KE-Gb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iBLJN-0002wS-UA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 11:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iBLJI-0000RE-Cm; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 11:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3973 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iBLJH-0007xP-LX; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 11:59:04 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 20 Sep 2019 11:01:54 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:240197 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 11:01:54 -0400 > > The experience with file-notifications in auto-revert mode has been > pretty poor Did you see a better experience in any other application? All I hear is negative experience; e.g., LSP developers frequently advise their users on Reddit to turn notifications off. Which leads me to a personal conclusion that using these interfaces in Emacs is a largely failed experiment: a feature in which we invested (and still are investing) a lot of effort, but whose ROI is rather low and disappointing. Makes me wish we had the wisdom to say no thanks when the feature was first proposed.