From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:28:52 +0200 Message-ID: <83imndxn7v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20191117113054.49837.qmail@mail.muc.de> <87bltaz9g4.fsf@telefonica.net> <834kz25qp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2wexsv1.fsf@telefonica.net> <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <874kz0pa9y.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgmjyn60.fsf@gmx.de> <875zjelte0.fsf@gnus.org> <871ru2zubp.fsf@gmx.de> <87lfsakdxp.fsf@gnus.org> <87wobuydwz.fsf@gmx.de> <87r222ix8i.fsf@gnus.org> <87tv6yveix.fsf@gmx.de> <871ru15tnx.fsf@gnus.org> <7ecb0429-a81a-ae76-77de-bdd00e3b292b@yandex.ru> <871ru1xnvs.fsf@gnus.org> <87tv6xw91o.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="5035"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, dgutov@yandex.ru, perry@piermont.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 16:32:18 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iXoRO-0001Ax-Jp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:32:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41908 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iXoRN-0001YL-27 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 10:32:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50434) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iXoO3-0000Br-LL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 10:28:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXoO2-0001oG-PI; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 10:28:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3372 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iXoNt-00026s-6s; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 10:28:42 -0500 In-reply-to: <87tv6xw91o.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:20:19 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242576 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:20:19 +0100 > Cc: Óscar Fuentes , > "Perry E. Metzger" , > Michael Albinus , Richard Stallman , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > And how often, really, do you get new, valuable info from reporters > > who filed a bug years ago, where nothing has happened in the meantime? > > Often. Probably not the majority of them (because they've stopped using > Emacs etc), but for the people still with us, it's vital. Right. Just look at bug-gnu-emacs lately (thanks to Lars, Stefan, and others): many old bug reports were dusted off, and their OP asked whether the problem still existed in the current master. Surprisingly, a vast majority of them responded with valuable information. Once again, I think we need to talk to GitLab developers about this. It makes no sense not to have a solution for this issue. Maybe there already is one, just not widely known or documented.