From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:59:06 +0300 Message-ID: <83imhpb3x1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> <87r1whiape.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87blnjopd0.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83v9lregx0.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgguh9we.fsf@fastmail.fm> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="36535"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 12:00:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRv8P-0009PR-DX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:00:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58270 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRv8O-0005rI-CE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:00:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39206) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRv7L-0005Hl-PZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:59:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43201) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRv7L-0008Ok-Hz; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:59:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3425 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jRv7A-0003zC-KA; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:59:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:37:48 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247681 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:37:48 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Separate and integrated are not opposites. > It is possible for several features to be integrated, > in the sense that they work together _when you want that_, > and also separate, in the sense that we describe each one separately > and you can learn about one without paying the slightest attention > to the others. I think it's more correct to say that Org features are well integrated, not that they are tightly-coupled in the sense that they cannot work separately. I did (and do) successfully use a couple of Org features although I know and need very little of the rest.