From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Splitting GNU ELPA Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 17:06:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83imgs81dt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <83imgt9uk8.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="118717"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 19 16:07:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jb2uE-000Um6-2z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 16:07:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48166 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jb2uD-0000RZ-6W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 10:07:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37502) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jb2te-0008Nm-KT for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 10:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51619) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jb2td-0000OL-OU; Tue, 19 May 2020 10:07:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3632 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jb2tU-0002LJ-PP; Tue, 19 May 2020 10:06:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 18 May 2020 23:56:00 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250919 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com, > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk > Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 23:56:00 -0400 > > > When someone comes with a package that implements important features, > > I'd like them to understand that, and be prepared to cooperate and > > coordinate with us, whether immediately or in the future. That needs > > better ties that just "here's your place; use it wisely". > > That makes sense. Could you make a more concrete recommendation? A more concrete recommendation would be to examine each proposed package more closely and try to decide whether we'd like to have that in Emacs or "close by", or just offer it for download to those who are interested (a.k.a. "just distribute"). This should include some meaningful discussion with arguments on both directions, and hopefully some consensus about the decision. We could also ask the package developer to state their POV on these matters, and their plans for further development and maintenance.