From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mutating existing persistent data Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 22:18:39 +0200 Message-ID: <83ilw0xj6o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <875ys2lyt0.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnkhlxb9.fsf@yahoo.com> <2FD7D920-D92C-480B-B2AC-91A17F0397C4@mit.edu> <87zgpdi0rk.fsf@gnus.org> <83h7bkzg01.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtlcfaga.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9495"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: qhong@mit.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, arthur.miller@live.com, john@yates-sheets.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 07 21:19:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mugwF-0002Gj-Jz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:19:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59412 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mugwE-0001ON-Jn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 15:19:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mugvJ-0008DF-Nk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 15:18:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=56788 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mugvF-00054d-Fz; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 15:18:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=TjzbAXa3W5QA/73QiT2kj2sQ5NIok3DeB+f/rWSbP68=; b=YX4lM7EatHoB rSATctcdlvZmU2fvg6Uu0SorDjmtNyNMvCAJR0r2nDPyqR5LayMRDHILovFT2gzU/ho+/N+kws7pR eS6jDxAArBOwIC41FV1hUGgE8MlBpunRBF/GYiZ/EntID4tAakEhKnVlOWMW4wHfJSDlwAuJhN1+n ivuL5sHwtJcQlBrZngyRwxiBpYox8MNNQYDplD9XfvtfM0l1rLDRA0KVT1w6nA18uJYeS0GibbDvu tTGP5MhXuIPKLUJC41MxjLGQmxVVWMdcFMyTD2bBjGboo87soJhx+HgGPerkGQycj/SP7PnPFdm89 ONVbQHUWh0eQxJLWlPLohA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3645 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mugvF-0005fM-9M; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 15:18:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87mtlcfaga.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:04:37 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281279 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, luangruo@yahoo.com, qhong@mit.edu, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, john@yates-sheets.org > Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:04:37 +0100 > > That it's a db on the backend is a detail the callers don't really need > to know, so putting that in the name here seems less than optimal. Well, hardly anyone will NOT know that we are using sqlite, so using that doesn't reveal any secrets. > What about... `state'? > > So `define-state-variable' and `(state-value foo)'? It's a bit on the > vague side, but it's kinda snappy. "stateful" sounds better, no?