From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unifying "foo-mode"s and "foo-ts-mode"s Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 19:05:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83ilhs6cuq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877cyagmti.fsf@posteo.net> <831qoi85u7.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt76f4n4.fsf@posteo.net> <83sfgy6l0n.fsf@gnu.org> <877cy9b1k0.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <87wn69oy1c.fsf@thornhill.no> <87edsh9gzn.fsf@posteo.net> <87tu1dowpp.fsf@thornhill.no> <87o7rl7x4i.fsf@posteo.net> <83tu1c6got.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgb47uk8.fsf@posteo.net> <83o7rk6eyz.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7rk7snd.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13194"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: theo@thornhill.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 18:06:22 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pBIpq-0003CM-B2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 18:06:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBIpR-0007qq-U7; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:05:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBIpQ-0007my-I3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:05:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBIpL-0003Xi-4c; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:05:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=5vVI6sRUxXSGV2BR1P9geo2kv+sh2ay9Q4FFw6TV91U=; b=f8Rgq5oTtgTn tVyvqSvvvlPiOjXIjkZEU2JAUgJ6Anado61AljRo8Hq8mSKVx7NVT16ecT/0BvMcdEXTyj4s+G0wj oO9Asdj8aydyMw1kTS2cvfznCH1R4ayAlJsxLMc0ZoIwG+dEqmy53baVgYvesfTiXijcn4a3cilfB LXPmmoceLCjbM+Gofte0LAbOmfzyBaFU+Op8B6JXBjt8wPYsAej+d+0n9RJfeK3GVWODJa6rJ6+av 6o2YBi1DaI7GYd2H5E5nvhlE89BIKigQwys5mUKnfZ7qw38w28NYyPluX6Tva+yKM25wL0pxh/OAY EO6gU4PYH/u3icDeuqp3OQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBIpJ-0002wq-W5; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:05:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o7rk7snd.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Fri, 30 Dec 2022 16:39:18 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302132 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: theo@thornhill.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 16:39:18 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I don't understand the question. We provide to users _features_, not > > their implementations in terms of files and variables/functions. So > > the symbols *-ts-mode are here to stay, and are not experimental > > demonstrations in any sense of that term, but what they do under the > > hood is up to us. > > That answers my question. The point is whether the usage of ...-ts-mode > major modes is recommended or provided with a "we reserve the right to > change anything"-like caveat, so one shouldn't rely too much on their > public interface. I guess it depends on who "one" is for this purpose. Which code wants to rely on these symbols, and why?