From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 11:47:52 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ilbmqxtz.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mt0yedsx.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 17 Jun 2023 15:41:18 +0800)
> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 15:41:18 +0800
>
> > Relying on a single person for developing a significant port is
> > something I would be very uncomfortable about. We have bad experience
> > with that for other ports and significant features. There's no reason
> > to repeat past mistakes if we believe this is a similar situation.
>
> But currently, we are essentially relying on one person (or nobody at
> all) to develop each of the ports in existence. And most recent
> significant C-level features in Emacs _are_ being developed by one
> single person: Bidi reordering, native compilation, threads, et cetera.
> In many of these cases, the features are related to a subject in which
> only one Emacs developer specializes.
Once again:
. there are jobs that we _must_ do, whatever the costs and the
risks, and there are jobs that we can decide not to do
. having problems in some parts of Emacs development doesn't mean we
should add one more, if we don't have to
If we keep disregarding these simple truisms, this discussion will
have a lot of useless repetitions. So let's be focused, and let's try
not to waste time on irrelevant aspects of this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-17 8:47 UTC|newest]
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2023-06-16 11:20 Android port of Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 13:03 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 13:17 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 15:16 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-16 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 16:34 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-16 19:34 ` Bob Rogers
2023-06-16 23:46 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-17 0:49 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 6:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 9:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-17 13:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 16:47 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 18:11 ` contributing to Emacs Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 18:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 19:39 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 21:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 21:10 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 21:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 21:26 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 22:25 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 22:39 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 8:53 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:01 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 9:23 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:25 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 10:04 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:07 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 9:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:21 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:00 ` Michael Albinus
2023-06-18 13:29 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-18 22:46 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:18 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 21:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-18 10:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-18 10:15 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-23 6:49 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-24 15:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-25 7:40 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-25 11:32 ` Setting 'vc-default-patch-addressee' in .dir-locals.el Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-18 12:13 ` contributing to Emacs Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:26 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 14:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 18:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 19:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 20:10 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 6:05 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-19 18:07 ` David Masterson
2023-06-19 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 21:29 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 22:49 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 15:45 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-20 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 16:32 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-06-20 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 19:49 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 1:44 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-24 3:10 ` Po Lu
2023-06-24 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 7:54 ` Michael Albinus
2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-25 16:41 ` Corwin Brust
2023-06-25 23:31 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-26 16:47 ` Ian Kelling
2023-06-27 11:08 ` Yuchen Pei
2023-06-27 13:52 ` Corwin Brust
2023-06-28 4:33 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-29 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-03 2:32 ` Björn Bidar
2023-07-03 4:25 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-07-05 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-04 1:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-05 13:19 ` Yuchen Pei
2023-07-09 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-27 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-28 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 16:24 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-20 16:33 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-19 22:47 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 1:17 ` Po Lu
2023-06-20 2:24 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 7:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-21 0:51 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-21 4:13 ` Po Lu
2023-06-21 4:23 ` David Masterson
2023-06-23 1:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-23 2:28 ` Po Lu
2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 8:34 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 8:58 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 0:50 ` Po Lu
2023-06-20 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 3:39 ` Po Lu
2023-06-21 9:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-06-22 1:56 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-22 2:23 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 7:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-22 7:59 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 8:38 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-20 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 21:44 ` chad
2023-06-18 9:26 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:30 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:00 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:57 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 8:59 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 9:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:56 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:13 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:27 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:44 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:14 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:54 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 12:24 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 15:20 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:54 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 11:11 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:10 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:28 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 13:02 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 13:32 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:50 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:12 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:09 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:29 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:55 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:33 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:30 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:57 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-23 6:51 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-23 7:06 ` Po Lu
2023-06-23 7:14 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-23 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 7:21 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-24 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 12:36 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 16:17 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-25 7:39 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-18 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:19 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:50 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 15:49 ` Android port of Emacs Thomas Fitzsimmons
2023-06-16 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 23:45 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 21:19 ` chad
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2023-06-21 9:19 ` Gregory Heytings
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2023-06-30 21:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
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2023-07-01 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
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2023-07-02 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
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2023-06-30 21:40 ` Stefan Monnier
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