From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: contributing to Emacs Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 22:11:35 +0300 Message-ID: <83ilbk8u1k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <6537fa5fa5c1fe8437ed99ee0988e35895f5a54b.camel@yandex.ru> <8423a35750d8d8e0437c7708f6b4d0bbdfdb7fe0.camel@yandex.ru> <6981052a75913ea435ae2adaccdaa1c66252a6df.camel@yandex.ru> <6a22f3608f37e238ffbd20d6dead86d3aa76d01e.camel@yandex.ru> <96766e99bf2618cc4290498933c6e32bc2a0f98a.camel@yandex.ru> <83o7ldpcs8.fsf@gnu.org> <3c64fe534fee45ff75c9e2c3cece8e2ee146091e.camel@yandex.ru> <87bkhdnl94.fsf@posteo.net> <183ae6c17b4d07701e76003dc72c25d8d2705611.camel@yandex.ru> <87pm5t7yu4.fsf@yahoo.com> <339b006829e123a3f6eeaffbd66f557ea837fdcd.camel@yandex.ru> <87y1kgdax7.fsf@web.de> <83o7lc91kh.fsf@gnu.org> <87leggd2cu.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9036"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ams@gnu.org, hi-angel@yandex.ru, luangruo@yahoo.com, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 18 21:12:06 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qAxok-000287-FP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 21:12:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAxoG-0005VF-3g; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:11:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAxoE-0005Uc-L0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:11:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAxoE-00029i-Bg; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:11:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=u1hUjOfmgoDr34j+21XaK8ZNN12Vm7GnBVz8fPhfVWk=; b=KFcNxDgMMai5o2TyQ1uo bDW6DdyASqJHLG2BvLMpWuXsanINg07v2zQyK7ECbxYrOZT7Gw/qTPNMwmYxzqonxKaSYND3TmcV8 F3meAggsxccbhANzTg5r5aByISzl1s5KNkfl5Z4N3L2jlpO0uuoPVxbEETdLBIYJj/yFgM8eEp/QH FWMThCJuYplYpIijQKT8Gz59puoOjHLNPzgYmFiFitDNemsvg6Xe7TNXO28DaOYccfZL+dBVG2vVp U0izn2MmDfuVWSilBPvwpYEMjC+rN7mTrZKdZV2ZrADgod4w3ow9SiO2A6D+Vj7HRogdHhYq9+lE6 XloXiMIeCrDGUw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAxoD-00053C-O7; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:11:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87leggd2cu.fsf@web.de> (arne_bab@web.de) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307010 Archived-At: > From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" > Cc: ams@gnu.org, hi-angel@yandex.ru, luangruo@yahoo.com, philipk@posteo.net, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 20:52:43 +0200 > > >> In the discussion it became clear (at least to me) that the way to > >> contribute is not the main complication, but the discoverability of that > >> way and that the way seems hard when you see more than a sheet of paper > >> in print as instructions. > > > > You are inventing a problem where there is none. > > You said that the w32 port didn’t get many additional devs. I’m trying > to find reasons — and on the website I see obvious reasons that keep > people from contributing. And the more I look into it, the more I see > how broken the new-dev-wants-to-contribute usecase of the website is. I understand and appreciate what you are trying to do, but those aren't the reasons for lack of active contributors to Emacs.