From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Where to contribute manual translations ? Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2023 19:14:04 +0200 Message-ID: <83il4i6yhv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837cky94rm.fsf@gnu.org> <83v88i77ui.fsf@gnu.org> <83jzoy71pb.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34554"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 28 18:15:01 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rItyG-0008jk-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Dec 2023 18:15:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rItxk-0002rm-1A; Thu, 28 Dec 2023 12:14:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rItxh-0002rc-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Dec 2023 12:14:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rItxh-0007Dy-4W; Thu, 28 Dec 2023 12:14:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=wND8VW79/ew4dpg5q0sOZYt7z/fBwEdepgFdulAfwPg=; b=KqO7L85gy0fB zaBJPbYhAuoyMzyUIRq3VpT2Y8HdeXcu4H79Ew5rVb7WjPSxvyMSZhjhJzWgiD71nONyZQ5KlsgBw Buh0mfSnDtdpWvYsBR5ZrCsXGeZHE2gCPsSAP5JUPY8HAz/X5WAQzHXTvcYJjobow6NsC6VAqtWjf OkuPwwYKy7aNr3/9eAykJyGd54TH9PiAOD6ugqXZspA2jwopHYzV+8tczEouGFAGbrnGa81iaVaJQ 3OV4oRw1994CdmGoKH/g7Ojr0+oaJuH6COUW9qJpG9ZySeOO4zCouD2UbP+N2B6Y2W0OSOwSVd+5C A7evTZtT6h2ylZL6A9s6hA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 28 Dec 2023 09:04:15 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314289 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2023 09:04:15 -0800 > Cc: vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > If we are going to call the source files of the translations of > > manuals as MANUAL-LANG.texi, then we don't need a separate directory, > > we could instead put them all in the same directories. That is, we > > could have doc/misc/ses.texi and doc/mist/ses-fr.texi. This would be > > simpler, I think? > > It would be simpler, yes. But it's nice to be able to have a directory > where a simple `ls` gives you "all the manuals that exist" without > having to filter for all languages, or manually check to see if they are > translations. (Unfortunately, filtering out "-[a-z][a-z].texi" doesn't > work due to files like mairix-el.texi.) > > So moving it all into a directory like doc/translations makes things a > little bit more complicated, but arguably also a bit tidier. > > OTOH, we could always change things around later if it starts becoming a > problem. For now, it's all a bit hypothetical given that it's only one > file. :-) > > > Why not info/$MANUAL-$LANG.info ? > > Users of non-French locales do not want to see the French manual(s), I > think. OTOH, if I start Emacs with something like > > LANG=fr_FR emacs -Q > > I would probably like to see the french manual. So what will be in the menu in info/dire we distribute? And if we are going to have separate directories for each language, both under doc/ and under info/, why do we also have to name the files FOO-fr.texi or FOO-fr.info?