From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: @dircategory (Re: Translating Emacs manuals is of strategic importance) Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2024 22:26:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83il46ryx6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837cknvkrx.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0iuuacz.fsf@gnu.org> <83a5piu1y3.fsf@gnu.org> <3BA42BAC-B6D2-4531-BDC2-D8037E7038F7@traductaire-libre.org> <83wmsmsjbt.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20151"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jean.christophe.helary@traductaire-libre.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, help-texinfo@gnu.org To: Gavin Smith Original-X-From: help-texinfo-bounces+gnu-help-texinfo2=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 06 21:26:59 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnu-help-texinfo2@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rMDFy-0004yQ-Oc for gnu-help-texinfo2@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 21:26:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMDFq-0006ev-W3; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 15:26:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMDFp-0006ee-FB; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 15:26:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rMDFn-0004V0-13; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 15:26:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=AsOCqc+B7qb966f1OVRinOdiXVxCRi8k11kwc7MqZJ4=; b=jMfO84bGM8XS sXFjUxR58p2XUn/Rhbr1CKLTf+8k1N6sd6AqiL8818qjPqSXcm3XrN9n17lk35foaufANWM7NKB4f rs4+qESparnsPJ0xWUnTTBfa7PjWUGiV6ElqmEoHzxf4BoXyjrrzRPm50jTtyilamA+g+avrKgWdR nM4N+vcltbw9ltEI+M0t38uDG9MvLYIHB9JhDKNd0wEJRckltW3pKesLci+8BSp3qTxNkv30menuQ pUFHwruXpna/tSo0CQmTsuxrQm6eeW3i4LXGxj3/X/quVMkJKlIPgl0W+/l6belfIEhLwBZANHp4A Z1EbULzwlPcHs0Ezv4bZKw==; In-Reply-To: (message from Gavin Smith on Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:41:27 +0000) X-BeenThere: help-texinfo@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the Texinfo documentation system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-texinfo-bounces+gnu-help-texinfo2=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-texinfo-bounces+gnu-help-texinfo2=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.general:3389 gmane.emacs.devel:314652 Archived-At: > From: Gavin Smith > Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:41:27 +0000 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , stefankangas@gmail.com, > vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, > help-texinfo@gnu.org > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2024 at 01:49:53PM +0000, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > > Thinking out loud here, but @node currently requires the node-name > > argument and has next/preious/up optional argument. It seems to me that > > most of the issues would be fixed by adding a fifth argument that acts > > like the cross-references' second argument (online-label). That way, > > node-name can stay as it is and act as the pointer but is displayed as > > "online-label", which is the translated part. > > A document author can use @anchor to provide target text for a > cross-reference which does not appear in the reader-visible part > of the manual. I don't see that extending the Texinfo language is > necessary. Do you mean that a translated manual should have an @anchor for each @node, where nodes have translated names and the anchors give their original names in English?