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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: tabulated-list-init-header and glyphless-char-display
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 19:53:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83hba6rqtm.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yyxmxjyp0pd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

> From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:47:58 -0400
> 
> > No, "glyphless" and "without a font" are (and should be) synonyms.
> > Except that on a text terminal, "without a font" means "cannot be
> > encoded for the current terminal encoding".
> 
> That's apparently not how glyphless-char-display works.  The docstring
> is a bit ambiguous, but glyphless-char-display actually *defines* the
> characters that cannot be displayed in an ordinary way.

Yes.

> For instance,
> if you do (aset glyphless-char-display ?a 'empty-box), that tells Emacs
> that "a" is a glyphless character, and causes all "a"'s to be displayed
> as empty boxes.

That's right, but why would you do something like that with a
characters that is perfectly displayable?  You should only do that
with characters that cannot be displayed, like unencodable characters
on a tty.  That's what I was trying to convey; sorry if I failed to
get that across.

> What you are thinking of is a char table that says "how should we
> display character C if it has no font", but AFAICT there is currently no
> such facility.

glyphless-char-display is such a facility, but it is not automatic, it
needs too be filled with appropriate values.  At least the fact that a
character cannot be displayed normally is determined automatically.

Btw, I'm not sure how all this is related to the issue at hand.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-10 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-08 17:17 tabulated-list-init-header and glyphless-char-display Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-08 18:27 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-08 18:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-08 18:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-09 19:26     ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-10  3:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-10  5:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-10 15:47           ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-10 16:53             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-04-10 18:11               ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-11 17:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-11 17:31                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-11 18:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-11 18:39                       ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-11 19:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-11 22:31                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-12  3:57                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-12  4:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12  5:42                               ` Kevin Rodgers
2011-04-12  5:58                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12 16:12                               ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-12 16:45                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-08 17:26 Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-09 10:26 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-04-09 12:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-09 13:56     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-09 15:37       ` Eli Zaretskii

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