From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unwarranted invocation of starttls Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:30:35 +0200 Message-ID: <83hb0bp344.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83aa67s5zo.fsf@gnu.org> <834nwfs0k2.fsf@gnu.org> <83zke4po98.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5tn7mnx.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325712734 25990 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 21:32:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 22:32:08 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiYRK-0007jx-Az for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:32:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35991 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiYRJ-0007Kx-Bs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:32:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiYRD-0007KJ-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:32:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiYR8-0005dy-RS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:31:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:65312) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiYR8-0005dk-Eh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:31:54 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LXA00300MF6QJ00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:31:53 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.18.76]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LXA003R8MH4FU80@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:31:53 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147296 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:39:27 +0100 > > Ted Zlatanov writes: > > > It can work, with a lot of fiddling, but is unreliable and causes many > > issues that are hard to replicate, timeouts especially. I don't know of > > anyone happily using it on W32 and think disabling it on W32 is a good > > choice. > > If it can work, isn't there a way to make it work reliably? Where does > it fail, usually? > > But if this is the case, I can add a test like > > (memq system-type '(windows-nt ms-dos)) > > to `starttls-available-p'... Opinions? Looks right to me, thanks.