From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:59:15 +0200 Message-ID: <83h9git36k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87vb4zb0i4.fsf@gnu.org> <837fheuu6a.fsf@gnu.org> <877fheb1rh.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ziua9mwq.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457384365 32376 80.91.229.3 (7 Mar 2016 20:59:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 20:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 07 21:59:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2FJ-0000VA-DO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 21:59:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2FI-0004qo-QS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:59:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44994) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2FE-0004nk-5a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:59:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2FA-0003Is-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:59:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51619) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2FA-0003Im-Lk; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:59:08 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1718 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2F9-0005HT-Tq; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:59:08 -0500 In-reply-to: <87ziua9mwq.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93sca?= =?utf-8?Q?r?= Fuentes on Mon, 07 Mar 2016 19:13:25 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201072 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 19:13:25 +0100 > > Óscar Fuentes writes: > > > There is nothing on the ChangeLog that I can't get from the VC > > history, on steroids. > > Forgot to mention that we could try with adding to VC functions for > easily obtaining the information people get from the ChangeLogs, to the > benefit of those who are not familiarized with Git. > > We could also emphasize the tools we already have. `vc-region-history', > for instance. Try to beat that with the ChangeLog. You are not addressing any of the problems we have with the existing practice, which attempted to do exactly that. The current situation is unacceptable.