From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is there a sane way to type Hebrew with nikud with Emacs 25/Mac? Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 05:42:18 +0200 Message-ID: <83h96fhysl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1481056342.3486002.810530185.08361AFB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1481151750.3863289.811957801.45609D8B@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481168559 29402 195.159.176.226 (8 Dec 2016 03:42:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 03:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Mark H. David" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 08 04:42:35 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEpbO-00078l-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2016 04:42:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43895 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEpbS-0006xS-UY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:42:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47800) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEpaw-0006xM-IA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:42:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEpar-0001uq-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:42:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33439) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEpar-0001uj-Lc; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:42:01 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1910 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cEpak-0006zw-8K; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:41:54 -0500 In-reply-to: <1481151750.3863289.811957801.45609D8B@webmail.messagingengine.com> (mhd@yv.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210125 Archived-At: > From: "Mark H. David" > Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:02:30 -0800 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > It's similarly a bummer on GNU/Linux with a PC keyboard. > > Straightforward way to try it: > Add Hebrew language keyboard in your modern GUI in the GNU/Linux-y way. > Fire up emacs, go to scratch buffer > Switch keyboard to "he" (Hebrew keyboard) > Type keys with caps: ASDF - 4 Hebrew letters show up: שדגכ > Type ctrl+b, meaning backward-char. Doesn't work, you get: "C-נ is undefined". > > נ is the Hebrew character you get when you type the keycap B. > > I tried this on Emacs 24. I'm sure it's the same on Emacs 25 in this respect. It's not an Emacs issue, it's how keyboard works on X. (Ironically, MS-Windows gets it right, so keys with Ctrl modifier are still ASCII when I switch the keyboard to Hebrew.) May I suggest to try one of the Emacs's own built-in Hebrew input methods instead?