From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:03:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83h7x9b3p3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> <87r1whiape.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87blnjopd0.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83v9lregx0.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9lqclfi.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="58178"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 12:05:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvD4-000F3E-CL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:05:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58524 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvD3-0002p0-Dh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvBy-0001Vs-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvBw-0005VA-7G; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:04:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3713 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvBo-0002JK-7D; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:04:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:43:05 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247682 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:43:05 -0400 > > > It may be too late to actually separate the various features, > > Are you assuming that this means a lot of change in the code? Yes, I think so. > I have no idea whether it does. Maybe most of the change needed > is in documentation, and a few little details to go with > the change in documentation. I think we should try changing the documentation first, as that is a Good Thing anyway. When that is done, we could consider whether any code changes are needed. (I actually expect that to become evident while the documentation is re-written in the directions I proposed: whoever will do that job will discover that, for example, to be able to produce a stand-alone document with Org, one would need features that currently belong to some unrelated Org part -- which would mean some code needs to be added or modified to make that feature seamlessly available to document-writers.)