From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PL support Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 20:46:16 +0300 Message-ID: <83h7wpdms7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83zhaih0oz.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnbegsvm.fsf@gnu.org> <83imh5hby1.fsf@gnu.org> <2e4e8ce9-d857-f3e3-31cf-a40dee67bd25@yandex.ru> <83y2q1dsvh.fsf@gnu.org> <2468efa6-7dbd-8634-44cc-586bb6985f49@yandex.ru> <83pnbddrfd.fsf@gnu.org> <83k11ldpxs.fsf@gnu.org> <83imh5dnun.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="130272"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 19:47:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXTZ3-000Xmt-3o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 19:47:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57952 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXTZ1-0007HI-Li for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 13:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34946) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXTYQ-0006j8-Je for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 13:46:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56535) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXTYQ-0005jm-99; Sat, 09 May 2020 13:46:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2480 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXTYP-0005S5-N9; Sat, 09 May 2020 13:46:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= on Sat, 9 May 2020 18:36:53 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249522 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 18:36:53 +0100 > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Stefan Monnier , > emacs-devel > > OK, sounds reasonable. In that case I put it to you that the best > way to make it happen is to import eglot.el into the core, help me > convince the maintainers of the major modes to add a few lines > to their code, and enhance eglot.el to automatically download > server programs. > > We _can_ do this without importing eglot.el into the core, by > adding to hooks and having and/or having a few defvars and > maybe cl-defgeneric. But adding it to the core is a simpler > way, IMO. eglot.el is a single file library, by the way. You are probably right. But Eglot is in ELPA for some time, and I don't yet see a campaign to bring it into core; I do see some opinions to the contrary. So I think it will be much easier to convince more people if we had this working. I cannot be sure, of course, and you will do the work, so it is still your call. Or maybe we will have a flood of messages tomorrow saying they'd like to have Eglot in core ;-)