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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 17:21:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h7nnfqig.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ft377q0u.fsf@russet.org.uk> (message from Phillip Lord on Mon,  11 Jan 2021 09:59:29 +0000)

> From: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:59:29 +0000
> 
> > It's your call.  I just envision many users to expect native-comp
> > support and asking why isn't it there.
> 
> No, you misunderstand me. I would plan to make Emacs-28
> --with-nativecomp. But if I am doing this for the windows build, it is
> reasonable to assume that other packagers will be doing for their
> builds.

Not necessarily: on platforms other than MS-Windows, if Emacs was
linked against some optional library, that library must be installed
for Emacs to run without crashing.

So on MS-Windows you could build Emacs with all the possible
extensions, and let users decide which ones they want to install and
use.

> > The gzip thing is again your call (having gzip in the package is no
> > big deal, IMO).  Dbus is not really useful on MS-Windows, so IMO it
> > makes no sense building with it.
> 
> We've been down this road before.

Did we reach any conclusions?

> I could add gzip and I am happy to consider this. But what other
> tools do we add. What about aspell (or equivalent), so we can spell
> check? Git so we can version? If I add them, then we get more
> "out-of-the-box" behaviour. But where do we stop.

We stop where you decide to stop.  (And the utility of aspell is much
smaller than that of gzip, btw.  And the complexity of aspell
installation is OTOH significantly greater.)  There's no need for any
consistency here.  "Consistency is the hobgoblin", and all that.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-11 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-09 19:57 [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 21:31   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10  8:49     ` Arash Esbati
2021-01-10 15:19       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 16:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 18:23       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 19:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 19:20           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-10 19:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 20:52           ` `gzip` dependency (was: [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted) Stefan Monnier
2021-01-11  3:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-11 10:00               ` `gzip` dependency Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 15:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-11 14:59               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-11 15:15                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 15:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-20 19:29             ` [feature/internal-msys] thoughts of a more function windows package Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 12:36               ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 16:11                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 18:22                 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 18:44                   ` phillip.lord
2021-01-23  2:51                     ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 18:53                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-21 14:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-21 16:44                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 20:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-21 21:37                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-22  7:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-22 16:14                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-22 17:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 22:13                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-24 22:56                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-24 23:34                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-25  0:12                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-25 15:24                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 19:49                                     ` chad
2021-01-25 19:57                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 20:42                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-25 22:13                                         ` chad
2021-01-25 22:28                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26  3:26                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 15:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 20:01                                 ` Richard Copley
2021-01-25 21:17                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  3:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  5:43                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  6:56                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  7:37                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  9:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 15:58                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-01-27 14:55                                             ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 18:36                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:35                                   ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-26 10:43                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-03 11:34               ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-20  9:25                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-20 14:38                   ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-21 15:51                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-21 17:11                       ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-24 11:46                       ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-26 13:27                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-21 17:19                     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-21 23:03                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-04-22 19:44                         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-22 14:55                       ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11  9:59           ` [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 15:21             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-01-11 18:29               ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 21:36   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-10 16:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 18:34       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 21:51   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-10  3:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 15:09     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 19:06       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11  9:47         ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 11:01           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11 16:29             ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 17:21               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-10 15:14   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 17:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 20:47 ` Alan Third
2021-01-09 21:33   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10  0:04     ` Alan Third
2021-01-10  3:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 15:43 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-12  6:01   ` Corwin Brust
2021-01-12  9:48     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-12 10:27       ` Corwin Brust

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