From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master e714b31 3/6: Merge from origin/emacs-28 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 13:10:07 +0200 Message-ID: <83h7c9yb1s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20211106092430.31690.17236@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211106092433.20A2420A22@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87zgqcgg3n.fsf@gmail.com> <87bl2rfprn.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6i3p64e.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilwqzxo5.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1bdyjhi.fsf@gnu.org> <87tug9lsso.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36612"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 12:12:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfL4-0009Jc-GX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 12:12:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfL3-0004rj-I2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:12:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfIx-00028f-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=44762 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfIx-0002IV-4w; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:10:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RUdOIm6wtkfUSm7x1Q8HwJCweoX6xpHcid/I6XsoG5o=; b=nD14FY39PC4P krg+nwvL9kiCwxmYFOjCYXWxxQqh36uAieYrPKvRKzQ4gpWeamy20LXNQRdioGHDU/TlLmBDc2usB pHZ2s/bCOvd+MEDEk6nXg7JY34AFztlGWOvZVTPhS7Cls1XlvT1/cVZj8kr/FAJJ7wjGLzzJ5ifr7 6GnhHaoUpWFAGejZ9OHiKHPP4AXlt9qLXmWuLxPEqDYbl8/ND4ZHyzb1lQdV9L8hBCoMrye47wfVt IqNlhJinjiDYyPrTke8VRGoH9rr5ahaEgMxb7FfzPfLdeaX4PYQ5iTGLbA3mmPWWdAOlUzk56umRM z7LGe3vlf7I1z/Fsz81PyQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2820 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnfIv-0002yw-QP; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:10:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87tug9lsso.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:25:11 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279671 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Stefan Kangas , rpluim@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:25:11 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > We have been over this already. You are repeating arguments that were > > voiced before, and I already considered all of those arguments before > > I made up my mind. How can I explain to you that reiterating them > > will not change anything? I tried explaining that many times in many > > different ways, and I still fail to get my point through. I tried > > above one more time, in the(optimistic) hope that this time I will > > succeed ;-) > > However, I can't see that you've really refuted Stefan's points here -- > merging NEWS is a real problem, and Stefan's suggestions seem to fix > those issues. There's nothing to fix, because the problem doesn't exist. It happened once on my machine, and that's it. > The only downsides seems to be a nebulous "but it might break > something". Which is true. I think the advantages here far > outweigh the potential problems, though. I disagree, as I already said numerous times. I also tried to explain why the arguments being brought up are not really relevant to the reason why I object.