From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Native compilation on Windows, was Re: Bootstrap Compilation Speed Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 21:36:17 +0200 Message-ID: <83h79wop8u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sftmn1k9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83sftmwner.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtjump5q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86h7a25nz7.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <878rve85yy.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86a6fu3xb2.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87tue1j8x0.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86wniw3kdq.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83tue0u8sh.fsf@gnu.org> <86sftk3evj.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <86k0ev3jvj.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <86bl07361o.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <8635li3mog.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <86y23a10fy.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83h79xpob1.fsf@gnu.org> <86tudx1h4z.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87sfth1dp6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86pmol1cbz.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83o845nt1f.fsf@gnu.org> <01f0bf06cf65428228b70d1f56be3799@russet.org.uk> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23567"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de, corwin@bru.st, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 21 20:40:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAzm9-0005xh-8j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 20:40:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55488 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nAzm8-0001s6-0Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nAzhz-0007GW-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:36:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=50820 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nAzhy-0003Nq-Dq; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:36:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=890aiuZU5ZwjWcDyVUXYbQCc2+X6IOvBiDa5Rh2t02U=; b=gq5mF+2JRnTw 9+1NugMou1zOBhKiXH1/Iugm0+dzBWDBJcUxaN/M2nNsTYjkBsJZburgCnv6fgo78L5b3tqpfrdnd B4lrJ5FymuJUtzDVjuoRGTGiEBsfIFWxhBB8g/3On2bCcqBhw/ER7/d7lDwytXXeQLlxyRMljjHC4 e2n+bTRbwjbn75ZHMYu4N9xVr5CPEETrDfA9IZPr5jWNeZnl0BeXq/nWe7pGKT4OLzgGCaEBh62IO ohRqDD+p7lL78ClnHiIY588xQcZ1kJehG7MMg907DLe2cya+abewaCuitBsKxnwtRRClf92gs0A6B Q7P+cJJmFPQwOuHhgB7m8g==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4386 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nAzhy-0003Xx-IR; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:36:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <01f0bf06cf65428228b70d1f56be3799@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285156 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 17:48:31 +0000 > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk > Cc: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" , corwin@bru.st, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Actually, the "x86_64" is > not needed now, but I guess I left that in for backward compatibility. Why do you think the architecture subdirectory is not needed? > But, the uninstall section looks like this: > > Section "Uninstall" > > # Always delete uninstaller first > Delete "$INSTDIR\Uninstall.exe" > > # now delete installed directory > RMDir /r "$INSTDIR" > RMDir "$INSTDIR" > > !insertmacro MUI_STARTMENU_GETFOLDER Application $StartMenuFolder > > Delete "$SMPROGRAMS\$StartMenuFolder\Uninstall.lnk" > RMDir "$SMPROGRAMS\$StartMenuFolder" > SectionEnd > > So, I think there will only be a single uninstaller. Uninstalling will > remove all versions of Emacs because it just deletes the INSTDIR. Then that is the problem to fix: how Emacs is uninstalled. Or maybe it's a feature that it uninstalls all the versions? In general, I see no reason for anyone to ever uninstall Emacs. But that's me. > In windows land, installing Emacs-28 would be expected to remove > Emacs-27. We are in Emacs-land, not in Windows-land. Emacs on Windows tries to behave like on any other platform, from this POV. > If all older versions of Emacs get left behind, that would generally > be considered a bug. It is not a bug, it's a feature: old versions are still available after installing new ones. If someone reports this as a bug, we will explain why it isn't. > So, side-by-side installation will work but it's not by design and while > the installer supports it, the uninstaller will not respect it. Then the uninstaller needs to be fixed. > My feeling is, therefore, the current set up is correct. If you want to > run multiple versions of Emacs, use the zip file. I disagree. I think it will be confusing to have different installation expectations depending on whether a zip file or an installer were used. They should both yield the same results.