From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Call for volunteers: add tree-sitter support to major modes Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 09:25:55 +0300 Message-ID: <83h70ci498.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83czb1jrm3.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1tphwu8.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35662"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: brian.miller.0235@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 10 08:28:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ohmGh-00097j-S4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 08:28:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42240 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohmGg-0004bP-Ca for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 02:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45382) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohmEX-0002Ox-8d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 02:25:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohmEW-0007nW-Kr; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 02:25:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=UVh0VYQZAdx4xHJX0MvpuhPrYAD0HRfSHCEjc8zLqmI=; b=Jt21RDt4Vwh4 1pS3fcNkYNZI7Q99F/xrEqh4euFUfXDEUMzETMKLNSGuV2XTbEV0mBHdTSbxd7wy/+65d1DGTs9H5 H586xLYxn9jaTwbtaqh8ww1jXvLuITRnmWRPUMvG+MaxD/mt4xawSDRaIQGhvfJ6YSnvTswdSMlYJ XvZdmRs5nlCCMnqGoZASBMkrLdc6qOYx4EHkp139sLFEjCIalJv9lREsy15BRzDdIInU2gBNnyuVD 1PXEp2fWHrBkoWf8FdeBDQ6DG+OYrssRz21vhfl0w6685uNFJq0aNBDDg+p1Ovg+tzIgcnE3f2woN +zQCRJvJjydcSrydk3Q/5Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2908 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohmEW-0002ab-4M; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 02:25:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 09 Oct 2022 23:04:33 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297310 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 23:04:33 -0400 > > I don't have an official answer to give, but for all the packages to > which I contributed, I've usually seen something like the following > happen: > > - Someone write a package. When they distribute it they naturally put > "Author:" there with their name and email address (not necessarily > for fame but rather in order to provide a point of contact for > feedback). > - Time passes, other people start contributing to it. > - Nobody dares to say that "I'm the author" since that would be a lie, > so they don't touch the "Author:" line and just either leave their > name out because they don't care about recognition and feedback, or > put themselves as "Maintainer:". > > So in the end `Author:` all too often means the one who got the original > impetus. Which fraction of the overall work that turns out to be > depends a lot on the package. At the same time, in most cases, the > original impetus imposes a general direction/design/approach/vision > which tends to persist long after that author stepped down. That's my impression as well. And I do agree that the original author's contribution is significant enough to justify the Author header.