From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Change to `use-dialog-box-p' Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 15:38:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83h6s7rxcz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o7mf3em6.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87o7mf3em6.fsf@yahoo.com> <83y1ljsg03.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzx33487.fsf@yahoo.com> <83wn13s9lp.fsf@gnu.org> <877ct32yjr.fsf@yahoo.com> <83r0rbs5ki.fsf@gnu.org> <87353r2qwm.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35333"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 20 14:39:10 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q0Lra-00093w-8a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 May 2023 14:39:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q0Lr4-0007WT-HO; Sat, 20 May 2023 08:38:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q0Lr1-0007Vo-RX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 May 2023 08:38:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q0Lr0-0004Ez-Ns; Sat, 20 May 2023 08:38:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=PZtiXe3+cBdCA5h9WkHyl0XhRKqN7XAZCXkbwcdL76g=; b=QGMgoOCwL6OY hjaHOdgcB9pLASJKybybkMoEFHyd4Z3a8SGDt6D9Zi6MzoAdCBZLzZikb2PZsb+1jtCAAcpWptiIL XdPONmdRO+9AXL0YSlGo8auzzaclMrMV+oKZ6Pdb2xP4nsSyKSUky9Yi48r/kaqAjH8f8cqibjtgW rt3iCUAiWBfoNf9wHdYBBKFuCtoDwh8csD5WHlVFVjwrkegQHNPDL1RontMkwhoGVeA6eAuRHfzGv WFfSdquijnUvIeZgXFDnUyM4E0LTZSlRK68ibimym7kjI5zpliiBAW+oHY8I4LwGA6vunDg2ESmHq gZm3DkSNSbBLvss9R0kyyA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q0Lr0-0005Xs-5g; Sat, 20 May 2023 08:38:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87353r2qwm.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 20 May 2023 19:17:29 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306231 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 19:17:29 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Restack how? with what commands or gestures? > > By clicking that other window. It's maximized, so it fills the whole > screen and obscures Emacs. > > > Why would Emacs pop up a GUI dialog by default in this situation? > > IOW, what would be the reason for us to show a GUI dialog, which > > To alert him that Emacs has finished starting up. > > > requires the user to use the mouse? > > Not necessarily; typing RET also confirms the dialog. On what OS? Anyway, I see no reason to change the current behavior due to this scenario and similar ones. Emacs didn't see any mouse-related input, so it has no reason to prefer GUI dialogs. We will surprise and annoy users if we do.