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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Mohsen BANAN <list-general@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net>
Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Now: Paragraph Direction Detection and Harmonization
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:23:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fwp495rc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yx2sjt427nf.fsf_-_@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net>

> From: Mohsen BANAN <list-general@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net>
> Cc: Mohsen BANAN <list-general@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net>,  emacs-bidi@gnu.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:24:04 -0700
> 
> I don't know if there is a PICS-Proforma for 
> http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/.
> 
> If there was, it would take the form of tables
> refering to the base spec asking for details of
> implementation with regard to each
> section/option/feature/...  of the specification.
> 
> An example of PICS-Proforma in the RFC Series is:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1708

I don't think such a thing exists for UAX#9.  There's Section 4
"Bidirectional Conformance"; Emacs implements everything it requires
under "Full bidirectionality" class, as stated in the fragment of NEWS
I cited.  That's all there is to it.

> In the absence of a PICS-Proforma, based on your
> implementation details, you (or somebody) can go
> through the specification and include emacs-bidi
> implementation details and cross-referencing UAX#9
> sections.

The source code in bidi.c already includes such cross-references.

> Given the lack of precision for uniformity in
> determination of say paragraph direction, based on
> the emacs PICS, we can then visit our sisters at
> Mozilla and have a conversation towards more
> harmony.

The algorithm used by Emacs to determine the paragraph base direction
is exactly as prescribed by UAX#9.  What differs, under the
"high-level protocol" fire escape, is the definition of the
paragraph.  This definition is explained in the message I quoted
earlier in this thread and in the Emacs User Manual.  It is quite
simple and easy to understand, so I really see no place for any
misunderstanding.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-26 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-09 21:18 Bidirectional editing in Emacs -- main design decisions Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-09 21:55 ` joakim
2009-10-09 22:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-09 22:42     ` joakim
2009-10-10  7:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10  7:28         ` joakim
2009-10-10  8:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-09 22:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10  9:16   ` Richard Stallman
2009-10-10 11:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-11  8:41       ` Richard Stallman
2009-10-11 20:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-11 21:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-12 10:11           ` Richard Stallman
2009-10-12 18:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 13:44 ` Sascha Wilde
2009-10-10 14:06   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 15:54     ` Sascha Wilde
2009-10-10 14:57 ` Ehud Karni
2009-10-10 16:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 15:13 ` Jason Rumney
2009-10-10 16:06   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-10 16:29     ` Jason Rumney
2009-10-10 17:18 ` James Cloos
2009-10-10 18:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-18 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-19 13:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-19 16:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-20  3:15       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 17:31       ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-25 17:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 18:44           ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-25 18:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 21:31               ` Now: Paragraph Direction Detection and Harmonization -- Was: " Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-25 22:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-26  7:56                   ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-26 18:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-27 21:58                       ` Now: Paragraph Direction Detection and Harmonization Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-26 18:24                   ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-26 19:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-04-26  1:22                 ` Now: Paragraph Direction Detection and Harmonization -- Was: Re: Bidirectional editing in Emacs -- main design decisions Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-28  0:52           ` Requesting instructions for enabling bidi by default Mohsen BANAN
2011-04-28  1:21             ` Juanma Barranquero

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