From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:20:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fwl3ugak.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874o1j10zv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:24:04 +0200
>
> I can still pick iso-8869-5 encoding for a cyrillic cut&paste, but not
> if it contains L2R marks.
How is having Cyrillic characters different from having an LRM?
> And when having pure ASCII with L2R mark leakage into it, I can't
> save under any 8-bit encoding (well, iso-8859-8 would work, but who
> is going to be able to read it?).
ASCII characters are not changed by iso-8859-8 in any way, and LRM
doesn't need to be "read" at all.
> Emacs should really avoid formatting things with L2R marks that are not
> actually required.
You are welcome to code a function that determines when it is actually
required. One problem with doing so with 100% accuracy is that the
outcome depends on the text that follows the string in question, and
sometimes even on text that precedes it. These are not always known,
and in fact the text that follows will normally be unknown.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-15 10:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 245+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-15 8:04 bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Andrey Paramonov
2011-08-15 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 9:24 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 10:20 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-08-15 10:46 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 11:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 11:27 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 12:56 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-15 14:18 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-15 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-17 20:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-18 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 8:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 19:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-24 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 9:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-24 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-25 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-26 3:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-26 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-27 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-27 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-28 2:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-28 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-29 14:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-25 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-22 21:35 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 1:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 9:58 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 15:29 ` use of `mouse-face' to delimit text zones [was: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default] Drew Adams
2011-08-23 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 18:45 ` use of `mouse-face' to delimit text zones Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 19:17 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 19:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 18:24 ` bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 19:14 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 18:28 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-15 20:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 1:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 2:02 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-16 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 7:07 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 10:01 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 7:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-16 7:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:40 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-16 9:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 15:48 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-16 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 22:24 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-17 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-17 9:34 ` Juri Linkov
2011-08-17 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-17 22:32 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-18 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 17:13 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-18 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 22:44 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-19 3:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-19 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 20:00 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-20 8:14 ` bidi reordering in program source buffers (was: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default) Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-20 9:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-20 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 13:51 ` Ehud Karni
2011-08-25 17:28 ` bidi reordering in program source buffers Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 20:01 ` Ehud Karni
2011-08-25 21:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 19:29 ` bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Chong Yidong
2011-08-19 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 19:43 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-20 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 14:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-19 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 9:27 ` Andrey Paramonov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-08-16 10:02 Andrey Paramonov
2011-08-16 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 11:27 ` Andrey Paramonov
2011-07-28 17:21 Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-28 18:51 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-28 20:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-07-30 22:55 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 3:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:21 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:44 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 7:36 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:27 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:51 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 7:59 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 9:15 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 9:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 10:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 10:35 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 13:23 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 11:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 12:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 13:25 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 13:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 14:26 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 1:14 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-01 2:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 2:39 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 15:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-03 2:56 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 18:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-03 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 3:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 5:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 6:55 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-04 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 6:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-09 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 10:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 13:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 14:04 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-04 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 16:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 17:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 3:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-05 5:46 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-05 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 8:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-04 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 3:41 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-08-05 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-05 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 18:45 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-05 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 21:54 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-06 2:01 ` Jason Rumney
2011-08-06 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-07 17:21 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-07 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 16:07 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-09 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 16:30 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-09 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 17:26 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-09 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 18:00 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 0:24 ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-11 5:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-09 22:26 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 1:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-10 1:14 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 4:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 16:07 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 16:52 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-11 2:45 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-10 3:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-10 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 3:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 5:36 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 13:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-17 22:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-17 22:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-17 23:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-18 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-10 19:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-10 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-10 19:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 15:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 16:16 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-06 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-06 19:21 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-07-31 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 15:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-02 16:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 16:42 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-02 16:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 18:27 ` James Cloos
2011-08-02 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 15:45 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-01 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 20:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 5:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 7:20 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-02 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 10:27 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-02 11:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 13:37 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 17:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 3:04 ` محسن بنان
2011-08-03 5:11 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 5:52 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 9:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 12:08 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 13:06 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 14:10 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 17:20 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 19:26 ` main
2011-08-02 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
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